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This is just adios and not good-bye
4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 3:13PM #1
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Ron Paul waved and said good-bye to hundreds of supporters and well-wishers as he stepped aboard an extraterrestrial vehicle piloted by aliens in Nye County, Nevada Saturday night. The libertarian candidate, who runs as a Republican, promised to return within a fortnight, to unveil "dramatic new plans and directions" for the campaign.

It's not exactly clear what Ron Paul is hoping to achieve with his candidacy which is radically different from anything else out there. He's having an impact, but it's hard to gauge how much.

When asked on CNBC Monday night if he would accept a speaking role at the convention, Paul said he'll wait to see what the circumstances are.

"They are not going to give you a primetime spot if you talk about bringing back the gold standard and bringing the troops home," said Paul.

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A reporter embedded with the Paul campaign, the AP's Etaoin Shrdlu, said "I don't know about this flying saucer gambit. It looks like the strangest thing he's done since he decided to concentrate on the states that have caucuses rather than primaries, and reach out to Hispanic voters."

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 3:20PM #2
Ed.W
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I was afraid you were saying adios, Cat.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 3:52PM #3
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I will miss having him in the spotlight. He is a sweet old man and true to his principals. Of course nobody seriously believes anybody could win who promises to end our global military domination.  That's actually supposed to be our enemies job isn't it?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 11, 2012 - 4:26PM #4
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Feb 11, 2012 -- 3:52PM, drawout wrote:


I will miss having him in the spotlight. He is a sweet old man and true to his principals. Of course nobody seriously believes anybody could win who promises to end our global military domination.  That's actually supposed to be our enemies job isn't it?






He would surely meet the same fate that JFK and MLK were dealt by the Industrial Military Complex before accomplishing that feat.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 8:16PM #5
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Since Ron Paul wouldn't beat anyone for the Presidency, we would never have to find out about your conspiracy theory that would lead to his demise.


Ron Paul is equal to Ralph Nader, in their popularity with a hard core following of those hoping against hope that the rest of the world is as crazy as they are. In the end, they are always disappointed when they find out most of America is sane, but take solice in the fact that, as true believers, they aren't.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 8:25PM #6
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Feb 11, 2012 -- 3:52PM, drawout wrote:


I will miss having him in the spotlight. He is a sweet old man and true to his principals. Of course nobody seriously believes anybody could win who promises to end our global military domination.  That's actually supposed to be our enemies job isn't it?




I'll miss him too. He has no chance, but what he says needs to be said, and heard.


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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 9:50PM #7
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Feb 13, 2012 -- 8:16PM, aarroottoonn wrote:


Ron Paul is equal to Ralph Nader, in their popularity with a hard core following of those hoping against hope that the rest of the world is as crazy as they are. In the end, they are always disappointed when they find out most of America is sane...




Now right there's where you take a wrong turn.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 10:14PM #8
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Feb 13, 2012 -- 9:50PM, catboxer wrote:


Feb 13, 2012 -- 8:16PM, aarroottoonn wrote:


Ron Paul is equal to Ralph Nader, in their popularity with a hard core following of those hoping against hope that the rest of the world is as crazy as they are. In the end, they are always disappointed when they find out most of America is sane...




Now right there's where you take a wrong turn.




Seeing as how both sides reject the extremism of Paul and Nader, I make a simple conclusion. I would say where you make a wrong turn is in thinking that your position is the position of most of the country. The Paulites are the same. Unlike Ken, I don't think their voices need to be heard, since they speak to an America that doesn't exist, and will never again. No need to listen to those who hear voices saying the end is near.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 13, 2012 - 11:05PM #9
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Feb 13, 2012 -- 10:14PM, aarroottoonn wrote:


Feb 13, 2012 -- 9:50PM, catboxer wrote:


Feb 13, 2012 -- 8:16PM, aarroottoonn wrote:


Ron Paul is equal to Ralph Nader, in their popularity with a hard core following of those hoping against hope that the rest of the world is as crazy as they are. In the end, they are always disappointed when they find out most of America is sane...




Now right there's where you take a wrong turn.




Seeing as how both sides reject the extremism of Paul and Nader, I make a simple conclusion. I would say where you make a wrong turn is in thinking that your position is the position of most of the country. The Paulites are the same. Unlike Ken, I don't think their voices need to be heard, since they speak to an America that doesn't exist, and will never again. No need to listen to those who hear voices saying the end is near.




Yes, Ron Paul with his extremism, along with Washington, Franklin and Paine. Imagine, the idea that people can think for themselves and govern themselves without a nanny! Radical!

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:17AM #10
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Well, we all know extremism is a bad thing. And radicals are extremists. And crazy.


I remember well those extremist radical abolitionists, and what crazy, abnormal freaks they were. And when that radical abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy began publishing his wild ideas in the formerly normal, peaceful town of Alton, Illinois, the disruption he visited on that place was so extreme that the good, normal citizens of were compelled to burn his shop, smash his press, and hang him, in order to restore their peaceful, normal atmosphere.


In their normalness, goodness, and conventionality, they were confident in the knowledge that some humans will own others as property, and that's just part of the natural order of things.


By the way, Aarraattoonn, have you taken a look around lately at the shape of the society you're living in? And who was right, back then in the 1850's? Only the "extreme radicals" appear to have had a sense of what the future held!


As it turns out, it was the conventional point of view back then, the reasonable and normal sorts of opinions held by reasonable and normal people, you know, people like us, that appear to have been extreme.

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