I know many, many women who use birth control for non-sexual reasons. Very quickly: some have irregular periods and contraception helps regulate it. Others have very painful periods and birth control makes it much less painful.
I have endometriosis and use it to control the progression of the illness, its symptoms and the risk of infertility.
Those women and I use birth control regardless of whether or not I am sexually active because they are medicines. It isn't optional.
So why is it OK for a religious institution to interfer with my ability, or their ability, to get the medicine I require.
They don't know me. They have not idea why or how that prescription is being filled.
Interferring with women's medical needs is an interference with their human rights. So f*ck the Catholic Church and what it teaches. The only people they need to be concerned with are Catholics.
And even Catholics don't listen to the Catholic Church.
So what gives any religious group the right to interfer medically in people's lives?
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“Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, practiced no cruelties. Its battles have been for education, for the vote, for better working conditions…for safety on the streets…for child care, for social welfare…for rape crisis centers, women’s refuges, reforms in the law.
If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?”
Davelaw is right, the Catholic Church is fighting the mandate in regards to religious organizations:
The White House hinted at compromise Tuesday as it struggled to calm the election-year uproar caused by the Department of Health and Human Services rule to require most church-affiliated organizations, including religious schools and hospitals, to provide covered employees with access to free birth control.
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
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Davelaw is right, the Catholic Church is fighting the mandate in regards to religious organizations:
The White House hinted at compromise Tuesday as it struggled to calm the election-year uproar caused by the Department of Health and Human Services rule to require most church-affiliated organizations, including religious schools and hospitals, to provide covered employees with access to free birth control.
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
?? You think a food worker cares where she works? Or a receptionist?
The problem here is NOT with the workers.
The problem is a RELIGION that puts its medieval prejudices before women's human rights to health care.
The question remains: for those who oppose GOVERNMENT interference in people's lives, how can you justify a RELIGION interferring with people's medical treatements?
Jesus had two dads, and he turned out alright.~ Andy Gussert
“Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, practiced no cruelties. Its battles have been for education, for the vote, for better working conditions…for safety on the streets…for child care, for social welfare…for rape crisis centers, women’s refuges, reforms in the law.
If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?”
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
Out my way, many of the large medical centers are Catholic. So if you want to work in rural healthcare, there is a high probability that the only available jobs will be at the Catholic medical centers. Same thing will the Catholic schools. Sometimes teachers, office workers, and custodians just have to take whatever job they are offered, even if that means that a Protestant has to work at a Catholic school. But I don't expect people who live in densely-populated areas to understand this.
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
Because you are a trained health care professional, want to work in your profession, and the Sisters of Mercy hospitals dominate in your region?
Because family planning services are considered by mainstream medicine to be part and parcel of optimal care?
Because the Roman Catholic Church in the US has utterly failed to put forth a theological position on fertility that it has had any success in getting its own members to adopt, and if it is really concerned about the morality of people using birth control it should start with why Catholics use it in overwhelming numbers, instead of trying to impose its theology on non-Catholics?
And because Catholic institutions provide vital educational and health services to vast numbers of underserved people and the church should not be putting this in jeopardy by handing a political gift to the party dedicated to defunding those services?
And can anybody see the irony of Roman Catholic poster Jasr taking this contrary position in a discussion with Protestant posters GG and Davelaw?
Davelaw is right, the Catholic Church is fighting the mandate in regards to religious organizations:
The White House hinted at compromise Tuesday as it struggled to calm the election-year uproar caused by the Department of Health and Human Services rule to require most church-affiliated organizations, including religious schools and hospitals, to provide covered employees with access to free birth control.
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
By your logic, I assume you will agree with me that why on earth a pharmacist works in pharmacy and refuse to dispense birth control pills, right? Just curious……
Critical of Sarah Palin threads make the Rightists go nuts is Priceless! Some sleepless night, I scratch my ass and think, Hypocrite is the one who points out hypocrisy? What a twisted thinking, eh? Freedom of Speech only apply to Republicans, everyone else, especially Democrats shut the hell up. Don't argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat the HELL out of you!
Davelaw is right, the Catholic Church is fighting the mandate in regards to religious organizations:
The White House hinted at compromise Tuesday as it struggled to calm the election-year uproar caused by the Department of Health and Human Services rule to require most church-affiliated organizations, including religious schools and hospitals, to provide covered employees with access to free birth control.
If one doesn't agree and wants access to birth control then why on earth would one choose to work for a Catholic school or hospital in the first place?
?? You think a food worker cares where she works? Or a receptionist?
The problem here is NOT with the workers.
The problem is a RELIGION that puts its medieval prejudices before women's human rights to health care.
The question remains: for those who oppose GOVERNMENT interference in people's lives, how can you justify a RELIGION interferring with people's medical treatements?
Hmm, the Roman Catholic church is trying to ban all use of birth control? Seems to me they're just trying to exercise that thing called 'freedom of religion' in their own facilities. You don't have a right to work in a Catholic facility and demand that they conform to your beliefs anymore than I do (I'm not Catholic and wouldn't choose to work for a Catholic organization because I disagree with this stance of theirs among many). An employee of a Catholic organization can still get birth control, but they'd have to do it outside of their insurance which is a choice one would make if one chooses to work for such an organization, but wants birth control.
"No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." George Chakiris
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” Stuart Chase
