Feb 7, 2012 -- 3:51PM, browbeaten wrote:

Of course she is, you just told us so.  Should I have the Mufti of Jerusalem consult you first when he decides to speak for Islam?

Ok, then, I can authoritatively speak for Judaism.  Thank you for reminding me.  I'll get right on that.

What happened to "Judaism". I can't find mention of it in any of the OT books. Has it been made subject of honor killing by the scribes?

Feb 7, 2012 -- 6:07PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:

Who are we talking about as a spokesman for Islam? 

And, no Miraj, you can not speak for Judaism. As far as I have been able to tell you do not know a blessed thing about Judaism. This is not a reflection on you, there really is no need for you to know all that much about Judaism since you are not Jewish.

Why not?  Non-Muslims are constantly nominating non-Muslims to speak for Islam.  I can speak for Judaism, and I know more about it than you think.

Feb 7, 2012 -- 6:30PM, rangerken wrote:

Of course what is considered to be anti-Islam propaganda should be challenged. However, I don't see anyone responding directly to what Docwitchy asks. I read the linked article. All of it makes sense to me. So, what in the aticle, meaning exactly what, do people wish to disagree about? It's a fair question, and totally appropriate on this discuss Islam forum. And it is clearly on the thread's topic. That's my opinion. Also, Docwitchy was a Muslim so I don't think one can say that she dpoesn't know much about Islam. Obviously she knew enough about it to decide to leave it.

Ken

I read it, too.  It was stuck on stupid from the start, but that's hard to know if you haven't lived in several Muslim countries, and especially, if you don't know their laws.  I've worked as a lawyer in most of Muslim countries from Asia to Africa, and their description of their legal systems is bogus.  It speaks of them as a monolith, then it speaks of "Islamic culture", no such thing exists.  It made no sense at all.

Second, just as there are Jews who don't know Judaism and Christians who never read the Bible, there are Muslims and ex-Muslims who don't know their faith, too.  In fact, too many converts to Islam who used to be Christians have a very hateful response to their old faith.  I have to teach them the beauty to be found in it.  You don't leave a faith you love.  I know Islam well enough to stay.

One way to confirm that honor killings are not supported by Islam is to see what Islamic Scholars have to say. The ones in Canada are pretty clear about the point.

Canadian imams issue fatwa against honor killings

TORONTO — Muslim clerics in Canada have issued a fatwa against so-called “honor killings” a week after three members of an Afghan family in Montreal were convicted of the murders of four relatives.

The religious decree — only the third of its kind in Canada — also prohibits domestic violence and hatred of women. It was issued on Saturday (Feb. 4) on the eve of Mawlid an-Nabi, the Prophet Muhammad’s birthday.
 
“These crimes are major sins in Islam, punishable by the court of law and almighty Allah,” said Imam Syed Soharwardy of Calgary, representing 34 clerics affiliated with the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada.

“There is no justification for honor killings, domestic violence and misogyny in Islam,” Soharwardy added.

full article:
www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith...

That should clear up the matter.