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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2012 - 8:13PM
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As if there were not enough Reformed churches, some PCUSA leaders may split to form another denomination (guess why): blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2012/01/ne...
What impact do you think this will have on the PCUSA?
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2012 - 8:54PM
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Having sojourned in the Presbyterian Church for 5 years, It will mean that conservatives will have a place to go and have no bylaws questioning their denomination's legitimacy. There are already several Presbyterian denominations already.
For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.
St. Thomas Aquinas
If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2012 - 9:39PM
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Seems like everybody wants a church that shares their prejudices and condemns those who don't. Being "right" and absolutely positive you are right must be a comfortable way to live.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 18, 2012 - 10:49PM
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PCUSA will have the same impact on it as our church. More members will leave..the well will get dryer and dryer....second verse, same as the first.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 1:21AM
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Seems like everybody wants a church that shares their prejudices and condemns those who don't. Being "right" and absolutely positive you are right must be a comfortable way to live.
That is exactly how the Protestants broke away from Rome, Journeying.
It goes both ways: look at the Metropolitan Community Church.
For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.
St. Thomas Aquinas
If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 8:47AM
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How many thousands of Christian denominations do we have now? Isn't this also true in Islam, where every other cleric has his own ideas about the Quran?
And the winning group seems to be the secularists.
Robert J. McElwain
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Supposedly)Thomas Jefferson
"He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral."
St. Thomas Aquinas
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 8:47AM
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The Presbies have an interesting history here on the heathen NorthEast coast. In the 1920s, Princeton Theo.Sem., a bastion of fundy Presbyism, was the crucible for battles between the fundies and the modernists. It was really a heated war. Ca. 1929, the fundies withdrew to Pennsylvania, somewhere outside Philly, and established their ultra-conservative Westminster T.S. I hope they like those wonderful Philly cheesesteaks. Some conservative Presbies withdrew from PCUSA --- too liberal, natch --- and established the Presby Church in America. Still too heathenish liberal for some, so another group schismed into the "Orthodox Presby Church". Well, that wasn't good enough for the floppy-black-KJV-bible thumpers, so they schismed again to form the "Bible Presby Church". Remember Rev.Dr. Carl McIntyre --- the White knight on the Right? He had a regular radio program and even established a short-lived college in Cape May NJ. . He was involved in ultra-right wing Presby machinations and was a highly vocal antagonist against the 20th. century. BTW, the "Theonomist / Christian Reconstructionist" movement grew out of one of the rightwing Presby Churches in Louisiana. The RCC has its reactionary, wingnut schismatics also. Cardinal Lefvebre's Pius 10th. society withdrew from the RCC in reaction to Vatican-2. That isn't reactionary enough for some, so a group schismed from the Pius 10th. Society to form the Pius 5th. Society. Still not reactionary enough for some, so they schismed from the Pius 5th. Society to form "Catholic Reconstruction" --- although I don't remember off-hand their exact title. Now really folks, what has Old Dutch been shouting from the housetops since whenever? Schismatics schism and schism and schism. 
Walk Your Own DharmaPath--- Do No Harm.
The Socratic Standard: Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.
Dutch
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 8:56AM
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How many thousands of Christian denominations do we have now?
Off the top of my head, I recall the figure of 36,000 different Christian Churches. The RCC, otoh, says there's only ONE TRUE CHURCH --- all others (excepting the EO)--- are merely "ecclesial communities". It's that "subjective perspective" thingie. 
Isn't this also true in Islam, where every other cleric has his own ideas about the Quran?
And every Imam and Mullah is hell-bent on issuing fatwas on who is to be assassinated or bombed. Makes for interesting reading over one's a.m. coffee and toast.
And the winning group seems to be the secularists.
At least they have the scientific method and rational thought as unifying factors.
Walk Your Own DharmaPath--- Do No Harm.
The Socratic Standard: Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.
Dutch
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 11:01AM
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..........................The RCC has its reactionary, wingnut schismatics also. Cardinal Lefvebre's Pius 10th. society withdrew from the RCC in reaction to Vatican-2. That isn't reactionary enough for some, so a group schismed from the Pius 10th. Society to form the Pius 5th. Society. Still not reactionary enough for some, so they schismed from the Pius 5th. Society to form "Catholic Reconstruction" --- although I don't remember off-hand their exact title.
Now really folks, what has Old Dutch been shouting from the housetops since whenever?
Schismatics schism and schism and schism.
And what is that wingnut RC group that Mel Gibson belongs to?
Robert J. McElwain
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Supposedly)Thomas Jefferson
"He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral."
St. Thomas Aquinas
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato
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5 months ago ::
Jan 19, 2012 - 11:18AM
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Bob, Mel Gibson is affiliated with the Pius 10th. Society. He's built a pre-tridentine style chapel on his estate and has the Latin mass said there daily. Mel's father is an extreme wingnut, reputed anti-Semite and holocaust denier, as is Bp. Williamson of the Pius 10 Society. The BoR is trying to get the P-10 group to re-join the RCC and is evidentally bending over backwards to accomplish this. The BoR appears to want every reactionary wingnut in the world to affiliate with the RCC. Sure; why not?
Walk Your Own DharmaPath--- Do No Harm.
The Socratic Standard: Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.
Dutch
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