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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 5:18PM #1
Marcion
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Having spent 40 years as an experimental physics I prefer experimental results to pontificating by cosmologists who write for the unwashed masses.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 5:29PM #2
mountain_man
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Still not good enough. You still don't have the level of proof necessary to kill off your real enemy; Hawking.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 5:31PM #3
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 5:18PM, Marcion wrote:


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Having spent 40 years as an experimental physics I prefer experimental results to pontificating by cosmologists who write for the unwashed masses.


 If you've spent 40 years in experimental physics you should be able to cite something from a peer-reviewed academic journal rather than from a "dot com" website. 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 6:16PM #4
Marcion
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 5:31PM, costrel wrote:


Nov 19, 2011 -- 5:18PM, Marcion wrote:


technorati.com/technology/article/matter...

Having spent 40 years as an experimental physics I prefer experimental results to pontificating by cosmologists who write for the unwashed masses.


If you've spent 40 years in experimental physics you should be able to cite something from a peer-reviewed academic journal rather than from a "dot com" website. 




I have been retired for three years and am enjoying myself by traveling; right now I am on the island of Maui for a month. 


Mypurpose for posting is that I feel we are on the verge of new physics - long overdue.


I did my part, now leave it to the next generation to break new ground., i am mentoring  high school students who intend to pursue a career in science.



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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 6:38PM #5
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Marcion wrote:



Mypurpose for posting is that I feel we are on the verge of new physics - long overdue.





The current state of physics is certainly unsatisfactory.  The vast majority of the stuff of the cosmos is so-called dark energy and dark matter, which we do not understand.  String theory (which some argue is not a true scientific hypothesis at all) and its equivalents are still being worked with no end in sight in terms of a demonstrable connection to reality. The elusive Higgs remains elusive.


Time for a new physics?  You may be right.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2011 - 9:38PM #6
Marcion
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 6:38PM, TemplarS wrote:


Nov 19, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Marcion wrote:



Mypurpose for posting is that I feel we are on the verge of new physics - long overdue.





The current state of physics is certainly unsatisfactory.  The vast majority of the stuff of the cosmos is so-called dark energy and dark matter, which we do not understand.  String theory (which some argue is not a true scientific hypothesis at all) and its equivalents are still being worked with no end in sight in terms of a demonstrable connection to reality. The elusive Higgs remains elusive.


Time for a new physics?  You may be right.




Templar


I consider string theory as  ad hoc  at best.


I was deeply involved in photon entanglement before I retired; I still try to  keep in touch but if you are not there day to day people tend to forget you.


To repeat myself experiments mean what they say, even a negative result produces information.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 20, 2011 - 12:48AM #7
Wanderingal
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"New"  Physics?
What for?


Isn't it the job of every branch of science to come up with new data that modifies and alters the previous data and explanations and ideas?


Physicists need to just keep doing their jobs and not spend so much time tooting their horns and touting their "newest" sciences.


Research and publish and teach.


That's the job of every scientist claiming to be doing research.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 20, 2011 - 10:31AM #8
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 5:18PM, Marcion wrote:


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Having spent 40 years as an experimental physics I prefer experimental results to pontificating by cosmologists who write for the unwashed masses.


Duly noted.


Also duly noted is your inability to articulate a single thing these cosmologists have gotten wrong scientifically in the particular "pontificating" to which you are so opposed.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 20, 2011 - 12:17PM #9
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Nov 19, 2011 -- 9:38PM, Marcion wrote:

I consider string theory as  ad hoc  at best.


The Argument From Authority is never accepted in the scientific community, so why should we accept hit here? Many real scientists, with credentials that match yours, consider string theory to be promising. Can you give any explanation as to why we should believe you and not them?


And leave out the Hawking attacks. They don't help.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 20, 2011 - 2:04PM #10
Marcion
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Nov 20, 2011 -- 10:31AM, Faustus5 wrote:


Nov 19, 2011 -- 5:18PM, Marcion wrote:


technorati.com/technology/article/matter...

Having spent 40 years as an experimental physics I prefer experimental results to pontificating by cosmologists who write for the unwashed masses.


Duly noted.


Also duly noted is your inability to articulate a single thing these cosmologists have gotten wrong scientifically in the particular "pontificating" to which you are so opposed.




We have been consistently wrong about our own solar system and dare to claim knowledge of the universe.


Isn't the UCLA team debunking Hawkings wager a proof for you?

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