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7 months ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 9:45PM
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Isn't the LDS heirarchy a little uneasy that Mitt might get the nomination because then the Mormon Church is going to come under intense media scutiny?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 09, 2011 - 11:57PM
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Benson was the Ag Secretary under Eisenhower, so it's nothing new.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 12:25AM
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Benson was the Ag Secretary under Eisenhower, so it's nothing new.
President and Ag Secretary are two different things. I'll bet 98% of the population counldn't even name the current Ag Secretary. And besides, that was 1958 and nobody cared about an obscure cabinet position, especially agriculture.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 6:33AM
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Benson was the Ag Secretary under Eisenhower, so it's nothing new.
President and Ag Secretary are two different things. I'll bet 98% of the population counldn't even name the current Ag Secretary. And besides, that was 1958 and nobody cared about an obscure cabinet position, especially agriculture.
Nobody cared? You're forgetting that Benson wasn't just a lay-member, he was already an Apostle when he became Ag Secretary. People were very interested, Edward R Murrow had him and his family on Person to Person. Folks were fascinated by this cabinet members family's lack of pretense; Benson's wife was named national "Home Maker of the Year" the following year.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 8:42AM
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It will be interesting for LDS to explain that they believe in the gods, and goddesses.
A conservative is someone who believes that firefighters, teachers, and police officers are overpaid.
"Wesley told the early Methodists to gain all they could and save all they could so that they could give all they could. It means that I consider my money to belong to God and I see myself as one of the hungry people who needs to get fed with God’s money. If I really have put all my trust in Jesus Christ as savior and Lord, then nothing I have is really my own anymore."
Republicans experience suffering the way they experience all their virtues, i.e. vicariously.
According to "just war" standards of Christian theology, if Saddam Hussein killed 30,000 Iraqis, and the Iraq War killed 120,00, how was the War "just"?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 9:34AM
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Nobody cared? You're forgetting that Benson wasn't just a lay-member, he was already an Apostle when he became Ag Secretary.
And...? Folks were fascinated by this cabinet members family's lack of pretense;
I bet. Pretense? What to the American public could be "pretentious" about a man who was just a honcho in his (then) obscure, curious religious sect? Benson's wife was named national "Home Maker of the Year" the following year.
I guess that was "special" back in Leave It to Beaver days. Women nowadays might feel slightly insulted with that award.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 12:35PM
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I would think members would become worried about the really final end of end times prophecy of the Constitution hanging by a thread: On page 137 of his book Quest for Refuge, Mormon historian Marvin S. Hill wrote, “To secure legal sanction for his call to arms, Smith petitioned Congress to form Nauvoo into a federal district and grant him authority to command federal troops in defense of the city. He warned his closest friends [in the Nauvoo City Council] that ‘if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they will be broken up as a government, and God shall damn them, and there shall be nothing left of them—not even a grease spot.’” Needless to say, Congress ignored his petition and life went on.
wait a minute, I meant but the portion that is most repeated speaks of a day when the Constitution of the United States will “hang by a thread.” It will be “preserved and saved” by a White Horse, A.K.A. the Mormon Church.
Speaking in general conference in 1961, Ezra Taft Benson stated, “In connection with attack on the United States, the Lord told the Prophet Joseph Smith there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. Joseph Smith predicted that the time would come when the Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread, and at that time "this people will step forth and save it from the threatened destruction” (Conference Report, October 1961, p.70).
with a potential collapse of the EU, combined with potential war between Israel and Iran, combined with occupy wallstreet protests turning violent... "by a thread, as it were" would appear to be unfolding.
how does that feel to be a lawnmower man? must be a real rush.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 12:43PM
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"Isn't the LDS heirarchy a little uneasy that Mitt might get the nomination because then the Mormon Church is going to come under intense media scutiny?" His dad was a governor, the Secretary of HUD and a presidential candidate himself.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 2:17PM
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I would think members would become worried about the really final end of end times prophecy of the Constitution hanging by a thread:
The Whig party, which was the dominant party in politics at the time, was utterly obliterated within a single generation due to the rise of the Republican party; Lincoln's victory in his first election sealed the deal. So yeah.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2011 - 4:11PM
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Aka_me: "with a potential collapse of the EU, combined with potential war between Israel and Iran, combined with occupy wallstreet protests turning violent... "by a thread, as it were" would appear to be unfolding." And how do any of those things affect the Constitution of the United States?
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