It's not like it's a coincidence. You cannot compare mormons to say Black People. Blacks did nothing offensive, but thanks to the Bible, westerners enslaved them and discriminate/d against them.
Mormons on the other hand have gone out of their way to be offensive to Western culture-until recently when they've compromised their doctrine repeatedly to fit in and be accepted and acceptable.
If mormons didn't want a bad reputation, they shouldn't have started out by rejecting the US, ignoring the US Govt, stealing men's wives, fornicating with young women, greedily taking on several wives, stealing, vandalizing, etc.... as their "Best foot forward."
They gave themself a bad reputation and continue to do so with rhetoric, lies about their past and a get out of jail free card they call "Continuous Revelation."
Mormons know nothing of persecution in the true sense. They are like the boy who cried wolf. Just as a convicted felon has trouble finding a job... mormons have a long way to go before they've shed the crimes of their past. To now imply, or push an article that implies that they are just getting a bad rap or that they are just the discrimination flavor of this age is gross.
The discrimination flavor of THIS age is gays. And mormons are a big part of that discrimination. So once again we see how disgusting LDS can be: Not only do they discriminate against all kinds of people, then change it, cover it up, and today discriminate against gays and compare them to Heroin Addicts.... they actually have the nerve to claim THEY themselves are the victims and the discrimination flavor of today.
It's not like it's a coincidence. You cannot compare mormons to say Black People. Blacks did nothing offensive, but thanks to the Bible, westerners enslaved them and discriminate/d against them.
Mormons on the other hand have gone out of their way to be offensive to Western culture-until recently when they've compromised their doctrine repeatedly to fit in and be accepted and acceptable.
If mormons didn't want a bad reputation, they shouldn't have started out by rejecting the US, ignoring the US Govt, stealing men's wives, fornicating with young women, greedily taking on several wives, stealing, vandalizing, etc.... as their "Best foot forward."
They gave themself a bad reputation and continue to do so with rhetoric, lies about their past and a get out of jail free card they call "Continuous Revelation."
Mormons know nothing of persecution in the true sense. They are like the boy who cried wolf. Just as a convicted felon has trouble finding a job... mormons have a long way to go before they've shed the crimes of their past. To now imply, or push an article that implies that they are just getting a bad rap or that they are just the discrimination flavor of this age is gross.
The discrimination flavor of THIS age is gays. And mormons are a big part of that discrimination. So once again we see how disgusting LDS can be: Not only do they discriminate against all kinds of people, then change it, cover it up, and today discriminate against gays and compare them to Heroin Addicts.... they actually have the nerve to claim THEY themselves are the victims and the discrimination flavor of today.
All I can do is shake my head in disgust.
Thank you for carefully documenting each of our "crimes of the past" as you loaded them on. There's quite a few; how could the writers of the two articles (one from a left leaning publication, the other from the right) have missed them?
Thank you for carefully documenting each of our "crimes of the past" as you loaded them on. There's quite a few; how could the writers of the two articles (one from a left leaning publication, the other from the right) have missed them?
It's not necessary to address my arguments, avoiding them says it all.
There's a lot of gay folks in Cali that love each other, and in a big part thanks to the Church of "LDS" ("saints" what a joke), those people can't enjoy the same tax status or respect that the rest of us (heterosexuals) can. That is victimization and persecution. Clearly LDS does not really understand this concept of persecution.
Thank you for carefully documenting each of our "crimes of the past" as you loaded them on. There's quite a few; how could the writers of the two articles (one from a left leaning publication, the other from the right) have missed them?
It's not necessary to address my arguments, avoiding them says it all.
There's a lot of gay folks in Cali that love each other, and in a big part thanks to the Church of "LDS" ("saints" what a joke), those people can't enjoy the same tax status or respect that the rest of us (heterosexuals) can. That is victimization and persecution. Clearly LDS does not really understand this concept of persecution.
So the violence and terroristic threats carried out by the "No to 8" crowd in the aftermath of the vote are just kosher as far as you're concerned?
That the anthrax scares against the church and the Knights of Columbus were warranted?
The the old woman who got turned into a human pinball simply for trying to cross the street had it coming to her?
If mormons didn't want a bad reputation, they shouldn't have started out by rejecting the US, ignoring the US Govt,
The church didn't do any of that until after the government had already turned its back on the church.
I believe it was Madison who rejected a request for aid on the grounds that helping the church in any fashion would cost him the vote of Missouri...
stealing men's wives,
Got examples?
fornicating with young women,
Ditto.
greedily taking on several wives,
This, too.
stealing,
And this.
vandalizing,
Same here.
lies about their past
Better keep those examples coming, as a lot of what the general public thinks to be "fact" about the church is actually lies put forth by the critics themselves.
Mormons know nothing of persecution in the true sense.
So "having a government officially pass an order stating that you can and will be shot on sight" isn't persecution?
Really, now.
mormons have a long way to go before they've shed the crimes of their past.
I'm not seeing a lot of anything behind this argument of yours.
Even considering this issue must create an insurrmountable barrier for introspection. How could one spend years on such a message board as this, sending one attack after another against Mormonism, and even consider that it is a manifestation of bigotry?
Perhaps if one considered expending the same energy on a message board against blacks, Jews, left handers or the English, then possibly it might fall into the realm of bigotry. Surely this does not apply to Mormons. I mean, they are religiously so different that they must surely deserve it.
Even considering this issue must create an insurrmountable barrier for introspection. How could one spend years on such a message board as this, sending one attack after another against Mormonism, and even consider that it is a manifestation of bigotry?
Perhaps if one considered expending the same energy on a message board against blacks, Jews, left handers or the English, then possibly it might fall into the realm of bigotry. Surely this does not apply to Mormons. I mean, they are religiously so different that they must surely deserve it.
noun, plural -ries. 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
if a church member were to go looking for "the actions" where anyone on this board has "acted" against the church or any member of the church...
they would begin a journey from which they would never return, because that which is being sought does not exist.
disagreement exists because the church is different from mainstream.
if the church is NOT different than mainstream, then the church wouldn't even exist.
it's a catch-22, there can't be agreement WHILE being different, and being the SAME would require not existing.
people of color... did not DECIDE they wanted to be people of color.
people of color... are not professing to be "the only true skin tone, the only living skin tone, the favored by God skin tone".
the LDS cannot POSSIBLY send out missionaries by the tens of thousands...
without EXPECTING disagreement to be created. believing one has
1. God locked up in a box (or temple as the case may be)
2. and only by bowing down before a bunch of old white dudes
3. can one ever hope to get a little sneek peek at God
is NATURALLY going to create disagreement.
the respectable thing to do, is stay fully grounded in reality before during and after disagreements, in order to identify those times when REAL persecution happens
to summon those who care about making the world a better place, by eliminating unjust ACTIONS upon any victim.
how does that feel to be a lawnmower man? must be a real rush.
