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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2011 - 7:27PM
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who are these people? they prolly don't openly display their names out of fear church leaders would react what is extremely interesting: 3. Just as progressive LDS Church members in the 1960s and 1970s had an opportunity to speak out on the denial of priesthood to blacks is that they believe progressive LDS pressure amounted to a pinch of owl hoot. Carter reaching for the federal purse strings to BYU is lit a fire under the revelation department. *IF* progressive LDS pressure can amount to a pinch of owl hoot... we'll be seeing m4m making headway on the marriage topic
how does that feel to be a lawnmower man? must be a real rush.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 11:36AM
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*IF* progressive LDS pressure can amount to a pinch of owl hoot... we'll be seeing m4m making headway on the marriage topic
I'll believe that when Pres. Romney (God forbid) divorces his wife and marries and seals his boyfriend in the SLC temple, as the "prophet" and "apostles" beam their approval. All possessions of a temple "recommend" will be waived so Ms Bachman and Ms Palin might be flower girls, and Barney Frank will not only act as best man, but will fend off the groping from behind the curtain.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 11:56AM
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a church member writes: The prophet is right and lead by the Lord. Those church members who speak out against the Lord’s command on this issue have aided and abetted these vile actions. They will stand just as guilty as they face the Lord on judgment day! members condemning their own to rot in hell... Kemmer's vision might just be coming true. where the quoted church member is sorely confused... is that the Lord Himself hasn't seen fit to issue any revelation weighing in on the topic. the agenda is driven by nothing but the prejudiced fear mongering of the leaders, with neither hide nor hair of a "thus saith the Lord" anywhere.
how does that feel to be a lawnmower man? must be a real rush.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 2:44PM
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where the quoted church member is sorely confused... is that the Lord Himself hasn't seen fit to issue any revelation weighing in on the topic. the agenda is driven by nothing but the prejudiced fear mongering of the leaders, with neither hide nor hair of a "thus saith the Lord" anywhere.
It's time the "prophets" recognize the fact that the day of "procreation" being the surest plan for furthering the LDS cause has come and gone. And "...because the "prophet" says so." ain't gonna hack it no more. The time for engaging some credible theologians is long overdue. Non-professional "clergy" are not equipped to handle modern people and faith problems without a phone and a stack of pamphlets from the "home office".
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2011 - 9:10PM
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Just as progressive LDS Church members in the 1960s and 1970s had an opportunity to speak out on the denial of priesthood to blacks
is that they believe progressive LDS pressure amounted to a pinch of owl hoot.
No matter what lack of affect this desire to extend the Priesthood to all worthy males regardless of skin color or ethnic origin had it was the right thing to do. As President Hinckley pointed out, no one can be a true disciple of Christ and have such racial hatred in their heart.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 12:23AM
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No matter what lack of affect this desire to extend the Priesthood to all worthy males regardless of skin color or ethnic origin had it was the right thing to do. As President Hinckley pointed out, no one can be a true disciple of Christ and have such racial hatred in their heart.
Particularly when BYU's finances come up for review.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 1:08AM
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No matter what lack of affect this desire to extend the Priesthood to all worthy males regardless of skin color or ethnic origin had it was the right thing to do. As President Hinckley pointed out, no one can be a true disciple of Christ and have such racial hatred in their heart.
Particularly when BYU's finances come up for review.
Financial reasons are for matters of self-preservation and expediency. I was speaking in terms of wanting to end this ban as doing the right thing based on religious values and ethics. We Mormons want and deserve to be true disciples of Christ, and not extollers and defenders of racial hatred. This wrong has now been set right and the 134 year ban is now a lamentable misfortune of the past.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 2:17AM
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^Glad to hear a mormon who doesn't deny it and lie about it. You should speak more often here Moshka, I haven't noticed too many mormon posts on this forum that are both educated AND honest. The lesson that many miss: It is okay to make a mistake, it is NOT okay to stand by it and lie about it. Thank you.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 10:07AM
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No matter what lack of affect this desire to extend the Priesthood to all worthy males regardless of skin color or ethnic origin had it was the right thing to do. As President Hinckley pointed out, no one can be a true disciple of Christ and have such racial hatred in their heart.
Particularly when BYU's finances come up for review.
Map of the dates of independence for the nations of Africa Africa wasn't free from European colonialism until ca. 1978. If the notion of "a black man having priesthood authority over a while man" didn't sit well in America, how well do you think it would have played out in Europe-controlled Africa? Most people don't seemingly stop to think about that. Oh, here's a gif if you don't believe me.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2011 - 10:28AM
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Africa wasn't free from European colonialism until ca. 1978.
And just look how the natives have handled "Freedom". Tin pot dictators-for-life abound, and the Swiss banking community and real estate agents in the South of France love the way African GDP seems to end up in the leader's accounts. If the notion of "a black man having priesthood authority over a while man" didn't sit well in America, how well do you think it would have played out in Europe-controlled Africa?
There have been black Catholic priests and bishops for centuries.
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