Sep 9, 2011 -- 8:12PM, zionsfled wrote:

Last might I awoke in a lucid  dream and became aware this is what it is when one dies. One is awake in  the dream. I tried to disprove the reality behind the dream. Only as  deep as I look the more concrete the world in the dream became. I tired  to discern once I knew and only proved it is our in depth perception  which shapes the concrete layers of reality.

For it is in dreams we discover the new. The place of spirit bleeds through.

We are fractal bits of spirit moving to higher states of evolution.  Seeking complexity is seeking the Godly.

 

Recently I had a dissucssion about how dreams are a way of coping with reality. I find it interesting that you have come to the conclusion that are dreams are a way for us to get a sense of how it feels to be "dead". At least that is how I have interpeted from your post. It took awhile for me to attempt to understand what you were trying to describe, and I found that it similar to a concept that is introduced in the movie Inception. If you have not seen it I recomend it, mainly because it has a similar idea that it presents throughout the movie. 

Now on my personal level I feel that dreams are a way to discover more about ourselves, well our "spirtiual essecnce" for a lack of a better term. I have always had a gift for remembering my dreams rather vividly. I can easily tell every aspect of the dream until I reach a point where it rather difficult to describe with just words and drawing. Not all of my dreams are the same nor are they completely different from each other, they usually are played out like movies, books, or through a personal experience. I am guessing that this is the best way for me to understand and absorb what is actually happening in my dream. Either way, my point is that I am able to resolve or understand my reality through my dreams... which is something I believe you were also addressing. (Please correct me if I didn't quite understand) 

Now the more involved or the more I understand my dreams, I begin to feel more enlightened, spiritually. I then begin to experience things that I cannot or have not experienced in "reality", a deeper connection with myself and the world around me. Once I wake up I loose this connection, but bits and pieces of it are left with me; almost as if for me to ponder on and accept slowly. (I hope I did a good job of explaining, if not please tell me what I need to explain better.) Now when I read the last pieces of your post, these experiences are what came to my mind. 

Sep 23, 2011 -- 5:43PM, zionsfled wrote:

My idea is that perhaps this world is a dream which is making concrete the next.  That our dream world we wake into when we die.  That heaven is what our minds imagine it to be.  When we return to this world we seek to be bound by the body.

Here we are learning.  Just imagine a world free from the bounds of natural law.  Some could not handle it.

Here we must learn certain laws to help consciously govern the next.

That is an interesting concept, it is easy to understand but harder to grasp the full idea of it.

The possilbilities then are endless, especially if an individual could perhaps control their dream world to how they see fit. Which in my opinion would take a great deal of self control and exploring one's morals and beliefs. To continue on with the idea/theory reality is the stage of understanding, learning, and management. I can only imagine that the next stage is something else entirlely, since it seems to have the ability to manifest into anything that the individual wants. Either way I think that stage is sort of taking action, transformation, a sort of awakening in some sense. 

I personally am having a difficult time imagining such a "place" or "state" just because all that I have ever known is boundaries of natural law. Not that it is unfathomable, it is just hard to think of accurate possiblities.