In his later Years, Luther indeed WAS an Embarrassment and was such in Fact also even in his MIDDLE Years ...

My own Preference among The Wittenberg Reformers was Phillip Melanchthon, who was a much more measured and conciliatory Scholar ...

OTOH, Andreas Carlstadt was even far more inflammatory than Luther ...

So ...

Jun 1, 2012 -- 10:04PM, mountain_man wrote:

Jun 1, 2012 -- 1:16PM, Marcion wrote:

Luther had it right but the fanatics screwed it all up as usual. ...

Luther WAS a fanatic and how anyone could follow him, or be a member of his brand of religion is beyond me.

I quote Luther:Moreover, they [The Jews]  are nothing but thieves and robbers who daily eat no morsel and wear no thread of clothing which they have not stolen and pilfered from us by means of their accursed usury. Thus they live from day to day, together with wife and child, by theft and robbery, as arch­thieves and robbers, in the most impenitent security.

That is  one of his nicer quotes.

Jun 2, 2012 -- 1:40AM, LeahOne wrote:

J.S. Bach's music......the biggest attraction of the Lutheran Church.

So what, Bach was probably an atheist.

Read his letters. 

One thing was on his mind as he composed his music, that's for sure.