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Nebraska Bill Would Make Killing An Abortion Provider Justifiable Homicide
1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 2:51PM #1
Tpaine
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When will the Christian Right learn that the Bible is not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. The Nebraska legislature is considering a bill by State Senator Mark Christensen that would consider killing to protect the life of a fetus justifiable homicide.

Last week, South Dakota's legislature shelved a bill, introduced by Republican state Rep. Phil Jensen, which would  have allowed the use of the "justifiable homicide" defense for killings  intended to prevent harm to a fetus. Now a nearly identical bill is being considered in neighboring Nebraska, where on Wednesday the state legislature held a hearing on the measure.

The legislation, LB 232, was introduced by state Sen. Mark Christensen, a devout Christian and die-hard abortion foe who is opposed to the prodedure even in the case of rape. Unlike its South Dakota counterpart, which  would have allowed only a pregnant woman, her husband, her parents, or  her children to commit "justifiable homicide" in defense of her fetus,  the Nebraska bill would apply to any third party. Link to article Link to bill


"The genius of the Constitution rests not in any static meaning it might have had in a world that is dead and gone, but in the adaptability of its great principles to cope with current problems and current needs." -- Justice William Brennan: Speech to the Text and Teaching Symposium at Georgetown University,(October 12, 1985)
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 3:14PM #2
Roodog
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Feb 26, 2011 -- 2:51PM, Tpaine wrote:

When will the Christian Right learn that the Bible is not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. The Nebraska legislature is considering a bill by State Senator Mark Christensen that would consider killing to protect the life of a fetus justifiable homicide.

Last week, South Dakota's legislature shelved a bill, introduced by Republican state Rep. Phil Jensen, which would have allowed the use of the "justifiable homicide" defense for killings intended to prevent harm to a fetus. Now a nearly identical bill is being considered in neighboring Nebraska, where on Wednesday the state legislature held a hearing on the measure.


The legislation, LB 232, was introduced by state Sen. Mark Christensen, a devout Christian and die-hard abortion foe who is opposed to the prodedure even in the case of rape. Unlike its South Dakota counterpart, which would have allowed only a pregnant woman, her husband, her parents, or her children to commit "justifiable homicide" in defense of her fetus, the Nebraska bill would apply to any third party. Link to article Link to bill






When do they start issuing "Abortionist Hunting Licences"?


Will they have a specific season on abortionists?

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 3:58PM #3
IreneAdler
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From article:



Christensen insisted that his measure is not intended to target abortion providers. Like Jensen, Christensen claimed that his bill is merely meant to allow pregnant women to defend their unborn children without fear of prosecution. "LB 232," he said, "is really nothing more than an attempt to make sure a pregnant woman is not unnecessarily charged with a crime for using force to protect her unborn child from someone who means to bring harm to her unborn children."



This sounds like the most contrived piece of baloney I have ever heard. Is there a need (either legal or otherwise) for a pregnant woman to have legislation protecting her in the defense of her unborn child?  When has a pregnant woman ever been charged with a crime whilst 'using force' to protect her unborn child? Never heard of such a thing.


 Did I wake up in the land of the stupid this morning?


Irene



 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 4:35PM #4
Iwantamotto
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There are sooooooo many things wrong with that I don't even know where to begin.

Knock and the door shall open.  It's not my fault if you don't like the decor.
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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 4:58PM #5
mountain_man
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This is nothing more than a political stunt. They know it  has absolutely no chance of passing. They do stuff like this go get votes. This is all part of their stated agenda; to get some kind of anti abortion bill passed and then have the Supreme Court review it. With the SC being packed with Right Wing extremists legislating from the bench, they might have a good chance of it being OKed.


Beware the Christian Taliban.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 5:07PM #6
REteach
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I hope all the chicken littles who voted for some of these morons wake up and realize that a Christian Taliban would be just as nasty as the Muslim Taliban in Afghanistan.  


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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 5:37PM #7
Hatman
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What gets me is that in the misplaced zeal to protect the life of a fetus that has yet to draw a breath, they are attempting to invalidate the lives of the living who have drawn hundreds of thousands---if not millions---of breaths.

Whaddawanna bet that Mr. Inconsistency is also quite on-board with the death penalty, too?

"Protect the unborn!  Kill them once they're old enough to piss me off!"

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 5:47PM #8
IreneAdler
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Feb 26, 2011 -- 4:58PM, mountain_man wrote:


Beware the Christian Taliban.





Oh, yeah.  I think they are on overtime with this stunt.


Irene.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 6:18PM #9
DotNotInOz
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I don't know that I agree that this bill was proposed simply to curry voter favor. There are a lot of extremist nutjobs like this in the central U.S. Enough to make me wish a person could petition for a legal change of place of birth as can be done with one's name. I'm ashamed I was born in Nebraska!

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 26, 2011 - 9:55PM #10
mytmouse57
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I was born in Nebraska, and I'm not ashamed.


The grandstanding of goofy ideas can happen anywhere.

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