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2 years ago  ::  Jul 31, 2010 - 3:33PM #1
andrewcyrus
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Excellent you tube. A study could also be made regarding the psychological aspects of the mark of the beast. Especially on the internet ample evidence can be shown that proves a "mark in the forehead" already being there. Call it a dead zone, or abject denial of God's Holy Sabbath Day.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdUm24lzw1o


 


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 9:37AM #2
andrewcyrus
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A note and tube from my Pastor;


“When we pray, God works!” What a simple way to describe intercessory prayer and to explain its purpose. Augustine wrote, “Prayer is to intercede for the well-being of others before God.” Prayer is God’s plan. God initiated intercession so He could work on earth in the way He wanted to, in response to prayer. By means of intercessory prayer He invites us to labor with him for the well-being of others.


Prayer did not happen because people wanted things from God and decided to plead with Him for them. Prayer is not a human strategy for acquiring things. Nobody thought it up. Intercessory prayer is God’s way of giving us a stake in His kingdom building work. He takes the initiative but involves us through prayer and our ministry activities. As we do our part—asking in His name and stepping out in ministry—He does His part.


 


–Adapted from Praying God’s Heart (Prayers that Make a Difference) by Alvin VanderGriend


 www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kGOYYjkBOM&feat...

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 11:51AM #3
Bezant
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Jul 31, 2010 -- 3:33PM, andrewcyrus wrote:


Excellent you tube. A study could also be made regarding the psychological aspects of the mark of the beast. Especially on the internet ample evidence can be shown that proves. a "mark in the forehead" already being there.




Now really. What did your teacher say about the web?


Jul 31, 2010 -- 3:33PM, andrewcyrus wrote:


Call it a dead zone, or abject denial of God's Holy Sabbath Day.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdUm24lzw1o




Which I'm sure Adventists have every time they commit these on Saturday.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibi...

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 11:58AM #4
andrewcyrus
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Aug 2, 2010 -- 11:51AM, Bezant wrote:


Jul 31, 2010 -- 3:33PM, andrewcyrus wrote:


Excellent you tube. A study could also be made regarding the psychological aspects of the mark of the beast. Especially on the internet ample evidence can be shown that proves. a "mark in the forehead" already being there.




Now really. What did your teacher say about the web?


Jul 31, 2010 -- 3:33PM, andrewcyrus wrote:


Call it a dead zone, or abject denial of God's Holy Sabbath Day.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdUm24lzw1o




Which I'm sure Adventists have every time they commit these on Saturday.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibi...




 


We follow JESUS example regarding the Sabbath.


It is lawful to do well on the Sabbath day.


Jesus said,


Mat 12v12


How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.


 


Our source isn't some twisted derivation of God's word via wikipedia. It comes from God's word.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 12:43PM #5
Bezant
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We follow JESUS example regarding the Sabbath.


It is lawful to do well on the Sabbath day.


Jesus said,


Mat 12v12


How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.




"Do well" means what?



Our source isn't some twisted derivation of God's word via wikipedia. It comes from God's word.




There's no copping-out of that one Andrewcyrus.


You used youtube.com to make a psychological case for the "Mark of the Beast." LOL.


And you're wrong about my article as a "twisted derivation of God's word." These are the true authoritative laws of the Sabbath that Orthodox Jews are required to observe. Of course, as a non-Jew you're not bound to these laws in any degree; in fact, if you practise them you're merely trying to observe two religions at once.


But if you doubt Wikipedia's representation of the melakhot, you should've checked their sources:


www.ou.org/chagim/shabbat/thirtynine.htm

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 1:02PM #6
andrewcyrus
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"Do well" means what?


We follow JESUS example.


Luke 4


And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.


The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2010 - 3:29PM #7
sincerly
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Aug 2, 2010 -- 12:43PM, Bezant wrote:

m"Do well" means what?



Besant, Jesus gave the answer(Principle)in those preceding verses and Mark 7:1-13--- Also, as to why  your use of the wikipedia site was useless.  Their house was left to them desolate(Matt.23:38)  They quit following GOD'S Laws for their own "traditions and man made commandments."


 

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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2 years ago  ::  Aug 07, 2010 - 9:40AM #8
samuelbb7
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Jews have a set of traditions not from the Bible which they follow.  These traditions are one of the main reasons they do not believe in JESUS.  When traditions get in the way between GOD and us they are wrong.


Remember GOD said love they neighbor in Leviticus and JESUS repeated it and added the story of the Samaritan about you is our neighbor.  Helping others is what we are supposed to be doing even on Sabbath.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 08, 2010 - 3:18PM #9
andrewcyrus
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Aug 7, 2010 -- 9:40AM, samuelbb7 wrote:


Jews have a set of traditions not from the Bible which they follow.  These traditions are one of the main reasons they do not believe in JESUS.  When traditions get in the way between GOD and us they are wrong.


Remember GOD said love they neighbor in Leviticus and JESUS repeated it and added the story of the Samaritan about you is our neighbor.  Helping others is what we are supposed to be doing even on Sabbath.




 


Hi Sam,


Not just the jewish but mainline sundaykeepers as well. My Pastor was an Assembly of God sunday preacher, until he was shown the truth in the scriptures. He chose to follow God rather than man's traditions and converted to seventh-day adventism. 


In my own experience I have to give thanks to where thanks is due. The Holy Spirit is still working in the sunday churches. Without Bill Graham I would never have learned about Jesus, without a four square grapevine church I would never have been exposed to the real power in God's word.


Lack of power in my own life was my dilemna. Fear of the unknown being greater than my faith at the turning point.


A sunday keeping four square preacher read these verses one day. And he was letting go of his original script that day regarding his sermon. He let us all know that the sermon was gonna be  what inspired at that moment.


Ex 4v15


And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.


MAT 10V19


But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.


Mar 13v11


But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.


So he didn't have time to consider it's consequences. The message of power was delivered.


Hebrews 4v12


For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


v13


 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

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2 years ago  ::  Aug 09, 2010 - 10:36AM #10
Bezant
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Aug 7, 2010 -- 9:40AM, samuelbb7 wrote:


Jews have a set of traditions not from the Bible which they follow.




Hello all


Had a great weekend and will get back into this thread soon.


In the meantime.


You lot shouldn't point fingers: Adventists follow "man-made," non-Biblical religious traditions: Christmas.


Now you'll take your backing from the infancy accounts in the Gospels to prove Christmas as Scripturally legitimate--and I'd agree.


HOWEVER, you commit the same error you accuse the Jews and "Sunday-keepers": extracting interpretation from Scripture and promoting a tradition -- by the way, don't even try arguing that Christmas isn't a tradition.


Aug 7, 2010 -- 9:40AM, samuelbb7 wrote:


These traditions are one of the main reasons they do not believe in  JESUS.




Not true.


The Jewish interpretation and definition of the Messiah is one reason they don't believe in Jesus--I'll give you that.


But the Jewish understanding of monotheism is a nuther story.


Monotheism is fundamental to Judaism: when Jew assigns partners to the one, incorperal God he's an apostate. It's very clear from Jewish Scripture; there is NO "wiggle-room" for debate on His Oneness--and that you claim otherwise demonstrates little knowledge of Judaism.


We broke from the Jewish religion when we said God procreated Himself, killed Himself, resurrected Himself and returned to Himself.

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