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3 years ago  ::  Jan 17, 2010 - 5:58PM #1
BillThinks4Himself
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While it may seem overly negative to define yourself by what you don't believe, I think atheism provides a refreshing opportunity to toss aside beliefs that are truly debilitating.  Casting aside my propensity to lecture, I'll just briefly toss one out to get this party started.


Being an atheist means not having to believe that your life, and all the tragedies that come with it, are part of "God's great plan."


Discuss among yourselves.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 17, 2010 - 7:22PM #2
Wolfhoundgrowl
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Yes...when I was a Christian my utmost concern was what God wanted me to do with life. I prayed over it, and God gave me scriptures in my quiet time one particular night which told me to head straight to bible college and become an Evangelist. Fortunately at Bible College I discovered other theologies and so I went to what you guys in the US call seminary to learn more, and fortunately the end result is that I'm no longer held by the theologies.


So yes Bill, being an atheist means I don't believe God has a plan, because I don't believe he's there, and so I don't have to dupe myself into finding a sign in the bible and following it any more.


 


Being an atheist also means that at xmas, as I saw with clarity at xmas past, I don't have to swallow a mythological story with my xmas dinner as any more than culture, I thoroughly enjoy my secular xmas, don't HAVE to hit church, don't have to remember Jesus- but at the same time I'm free to enjoy the cultural side of those myhtologies (I watched midnight mass on TV lol)


 


Good thread Bill, at first I one may think ''what a waste of time, too much in that'' but I think we all have our pet 'as-an-atheist-I-don't-believe'

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 18, 2010 - 11:34AM #3
Tolerant Sis
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I don't believe that there is a Great Scorekeeper in heaven who is keeping track of my good deeds and bad, the way that a child believes Santa does.  I don't believe God lives in each child I help, or each homeless family I make supper for, or each family of kittens I bring in from the cold,  or each earthquake victim I send money to.  Instead, I believe that I live in these people and creatures, and that they live in me, too.  I therefore must believe that good deeds are their own ultimate reward ... and the solemn duty of all humans.


I do not believe that a god set the universe in motion, or guides its existence, or plots its demise.  Therefore, my own planet, a tiny, tiny part of the whole, is my responsibility.  I must live my independent life as though it has impact on the world as a whole, as indeed it does.


I do not believe that I will live on after death.  Therefore, my actions and inactions in life are of the utmost consequence.

First amendment fan since 1793.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 26, 2010 - 11:08PM #4
rgr075
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Jan 17, 2010 -- 5:58PM, BillThinks4Himself wrote:


Being an atheist means not having to believe that your life, and all the tragedies that come with it, are part of "God's great plan."




This seems more inline with anti-theism to me.  I'm not against that btw, but I don't have that level of passion about it to go that far.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 27, 2010 - 3:05AM #5
Eudaimonist
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Jan 26, 2010 -- 11:08PM, rgr075 wrote:

This seems more inline with anti-theism to me.  I'm not against that btw, but I don't have that level of passion about it to go that far.




No, that's not anti-theism.  He isn't saying that all religion takes that view.  He's just saying that he is free of the worst that religion has to offer.


An atheist who is not an anti-theist may take the view that religion sometimes offers some bad things that are better avoided.


 


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3 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2010 - 10:10PM #6
Truthprecepts
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Jan 17, 2010 -- 7:22PM, Wolfhoundgrowl wrote:

Yes...when I was a Christian my utmost concern was what God wanted me to do with life. I prayed over it, and God gave me scriptures in my quiet time one particular night which told me to head straight to bible college and become an Evangelist. Fortunately at Bible College I discovered other theologies and so I went to what you guys in the US call seminary to learn more, and fortunately the end result is that I'm no longer held by the theologies.


What does this mean that you prayed over it and God gave you scriptures and told you to head straight to bible college?

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 06, 2010 - 11:55PM #7
mountain_man
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Feb 6, 2010 -- 10:10PM, Truthprecepts wrote:

What does this mean that you prayed over it and God gave you scriptures and told you to head straight to bible college?



What he's saying is that he learned so much about the christian religion that he can't believe in it any more. I know several people like that. A friend of mine has a doctorate in biblical studies and has written several books on the subject - none of which you'd like. He learned so much about the bible that he can't believe a word of it.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2010 - 10:34AM #8
Jcarlinbn
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Feb 6, 2010 -- 10:10PM, Truthprecepts wrote:

 What does this mean that you prayed over it and God gave you scriptures and told you to head straight to bible college?


Probably, giving people scriptures and telling people to really study them in context, and all of them is God's favorite way to create non-Christians.  If God is lucky they only reject the Christian Parts of Scripture.  Otherwise they become atheists.   


 

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2010 - 1:25PM #9
Truthprecepts
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Feb 7, 2010 -- 10:34AM, Jcarlinbn wrote:

Feb 6, 2010 -- 10:10PM, Truthprecepts wrote:

 What does this mean that you prayed over it and God gave you scriptures and told you to head straight to bible college?


Probably, giving people scriptures and telling people to really study them in context, and all of them is God's favorite way to create non-Christians.  If God is lucky they only reject the Christian Parts of Scripture.  Otherwise they become atheists.  



So God does in fact interact with people?

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 07, 2010 - 4:06PM #10
BlackWingBlueSky
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Feb 7, 2010 -- 1:25PM, Truthprecepts wrote:


So God does in fact interact with people?





When they believe he does, yes, since god exists in the imagination.  This also explains the previous poster writing that god told him to read scriptures and go to bible college.  This was, after all, back when he believed there was a god who did such things.


 

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