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4 years ago  ::  Nov 29, 2010 - 2:29PM #51
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Nov 27, 2010 -- 12:07AM, Timai wrote:

Oct 10, 2009 -- 11:45PM, davelaw40 wrote:

No, it does not. I am a member of independant local Church not officially tied with any other group. Yes, we are unofficilly tied to other groups; but thats another story.

Oct 10, 2009 -- 10:13PM, davelaw40 wrote:

are you advocating overthrowing the Government of the US in the name of the coming Kingdom?

Then, it would seem that you and the Apostle Paul are those advocating the overthrow of the Government of the United States of America whereas Jesus Christ never advocated overthrowing any government, as the Roman ruler Pontius Pilate was more favorable toward Jesus Christ than the religious authorities that were demanding His execution (speaking of health care relative to the Church and the Government).

Paul allegedly said this in a private letter to a church that was subsequently intercepted and became part of the Christian Bible:

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 6:12)

Dave and I have debated here on Bnet and on other sites for several years and, while we often disagree about politics and religion, the idea that he would advocate overthrowing the American government is ludicrous. I have never seen such an advocacy in any of his posts.

"The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery, for slavery consists in being subject to the will of another, and he that has not a vote in the election of representatives is in this case." Thomas Paine:
Dissertation on First Principles of Government (July 1795)
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