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Just checking......Any maltheists visiting beliefnet anymore?
3 years ago  ::  Apr 17, 2009 - 1:18AM #1
whichone
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I know that I am as guilty as anyone else......  I have hardly been here myself.  Probably the only reason that I am here today is I called in sick to work.  I have been getting sick more this year than any in my life so far.  I am beginning to think the last great betrayal by my parents has worn me down.  I think the stress and grief must be effecting my immune system.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2009 - 4:52PM #2
moyzo1
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Still popping in on occasion though not very often anymore. forum seems dead and gone. we need to find new blood or get the word out about our beliefs in some way.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 26, 2009 - 9:11PM #3
Ask.seek.knock
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Hi, all!  First time I've checked this board in weeks.  I'm about fed up with the whole of Bnet since this last changeover. 

Sorry to hear about you being sick, whichone.  Hope that things will turn around for you. 

ASK

"The best thing you can do for the world is make the most of yourself." -- Wallace D. Wattles

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3 years ago  ::  May 10, 2009 - 7:43PM #4
whichone
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It has been a while since I have been here too.  I think close to a month.  I think all the changes to the website have made me reluctant to visit beliefnet.  I was used to the old ways of getting around the website.  I haven't been to the new site enough to understand how to get around yet.  Some things seem easier.  I found it easier to request some threads be moved to the Religion Dialogue and Debate forum.  I can understand how someone can be confused where to post threads now.  I kind of had to look around to find out where Debate and criticism of beliefs belong.  Beliefnet has changed the name so many times.  When I came it was called:  Challenge and Critique, then my cobby webby mind thinks it changed to Debate, then to Discuss, and now it is Religion Dialogue and Debate.


I know Paul the founder of our forum didn't care if debaters came here, but there is a proper forum for debate.  That is where critics should go.   In my opinion maltheists have no end of critics.  Anti-maltheists are only to happy to give us every detail of their opinion against us in all walks of our life.  I don't think it is too much to ask to allow us our community forum free of anti-maltheist criticism.

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 12:42AM #5
Flatheist007
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Dear Wichone,


You suddenly start to sound to me like many christians i have met after my de-conversion. As soon as the conversation starts to sound like I am challenging their believe, or i start to ask for a good reason whay i should believe this and that, the whole thing turns into a: "You are offending my belief by criticizing it".


The whole thing is just ridiculous!


Have you consider that maybe I want to understand you guys better? Some of the conclusion that you guys jump to, might be without merit in my opinion, but perhaps, by me opening this dialog, I am trying to get things straight from the source so that I might get a better understanding of why you guys think the way you do!


Maybe i like some of what you are bringing to the table: The fact that God might exist  does not mean that He is automatically GOOD.


I think that you guys are on to something here!


But as soon as I try to start the dialogue, you start bringing the "offended" card, or the "Persecuted" card. 


I am not out to get you, or any person that believes in Maltheism. I do not have any beef with any of you guys, and if anything, i can relate to most of the points you are making.


I am not here in the spirit of criticism,  but in the spirit of dialogue. 


If you cannot see that and you are so sensitive about discussing why you believe what you believe, perhaps you should not be posting any of your beliefs in any forum, and just keep the whole thing to yourself.


If on the contrary you are secure in your beliefs, then you should not have any problem in starting an honest and friendly discussion. And part of a friendly discussion is challenging your views. 


I do not think I posted anything offensive or demeaning to your belief, and obviously I have nothing personal against you or your community.  I however have serious questions for your reasons to believe in maltheism, and I will simply like to know more, since some of your stuff do not make much sense to me, although some of it does. 


Your whole "I do not have anything to prove to you" is just not going to cut it. Not if you want you point of view to be spread (and this seams to be one of your goals, as I read in one of your threads)


You cannot have it both ways: You want to spread your belief of "Maltheism" and at the same time you do not want your belief to be challenged.


Are you serious??


If all I am going to get from you is: "We do not have anything to prove to you" I will not remove my questions from your forum. and you better ask next time in a nice way. I do not respond well to people treating me harshly, and I certainly will not tolerate threats from you or nobody.


If you start a friendly, respectful, and meaningful conversation in the Discussion forums, then I will gladly remove my post from your forum.


I am trusting that in the future you are not going to play the "I am offended" card or the "I do not have anything to prove you" card on me again.


Who the heck do you think you are? The Ayatollah of Maltheism?? Are you the New Leader of the movement or something??Are you the official speaker for all Maltheists here in beliefnet??


If you do not like to have conversations about your believes just cancel your subscription to beliefnet and keep your beliefs to yourself. This way no-one will challenge your beliefs, and you will not have to deal with people like me that only want to get to know other peoples beliefs better.


I am here anytime waiting for your response. 


If  I do not hear from you I will assume that you took my advise. 


Until next time,


Ricardo


 


 

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 5:55PM #6
Flatheist007
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Hey Wichone,


Are you forgetting to delete this thread too??


Anyone disenting your opinion you like to delete, so go ahead, delete this thread too!


You are starting to look to me like the leader of a great cult. This is exactly what they do!


Nobody can disagree or else!


You are trully the Ayatollah of Maltheism!!


Go ahead and delete this one too!

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 6:28PM #7
gorm-sionnach
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Community forums are (generally) for the use of adherants of whichever religious view they are on. I.e. the Maltheism community board is not the place to be debating and criticizing Maltheism, that would be for the discussion/debate board. I'd suggest you ask whoever the mod is for this forum to move your current posts to the discuss/debate maltheism board, if no mod is currently here, then a bnet staff member.


Gorm,


Community Host


Celtic Religions

Truth in our hearts, Strength in our arms, Fulfillment in our tongues.
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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 8:35PM #8
Flatheist007
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Dear Mr. Gorm,


Don't Worry, I think his "Mal-Holiness"  (Mr. Wichone) can take care of it, since he already deleted a few threads.   I think he can manage. He is good at deleting dissenting views.


Regards,


Ricardo

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3 years ago  ::  May 11, 2009 - 9:20PM #9
gorm-sionnach
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He is well within his right as a community host to do so.


 


Gorm.

Truth in our hearts, Strength in our arms, Fulfillment in our tongues.
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3 years ago  ::  May 12, 2009 - 1:43PM #10
Flatheist007
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Yep, but he do not need to be an Asshole about it.  He can exercise his right and still be nice about it: you know, like asking in a nice way and stuff like that. I am just amazed that he have not yet delete my posts here yet!


I think you might want to send me a message about anything else. I do not wish to keep posting my answers to you here in this thread.

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