"We can accept that the ego is, 'of course', desirous of gain, advantage, greed, etc. By simply expecting it to be as it is, its nature can be accepted and then transcended. The ego just does what it has been trained to do over the millennia, and it still thinks its survival depends on adherence to and the practice of its programs that, because of evolution, have now become the antithesis of the intentions of the ethical person of today or of the serious spiritual seeker.

In approaching the ego, it is well to remember that it feeds off of and is seduced by the energy of negativity of pain, suffering, hate, and guilt to which it gets attached (addicted). It secretely nurtures the 'juice' it gets from being the martyr or the victim, and it loves hatred, being 'right', and revenge. The consciousness level of ego is based on the utilization of the qualities of force, whether they are emotional, intellectual, or physical. The undoing of the ego, consequently, is not by the utilization of moralistic or emotional counterforce but by the use of the power of truth itself.

Force, by its nature, triggers counterforce, and every ego position has its opposite".

From Truth vs Falsehood by David Hawkins page 50.

On page 58 Hawkins say that there are on every level of consciousness there are hidden organizational energy patterns called 'attractors'. If we live from the level of ego we attract pain, suffering and hate. We see what we are, we attract what we are.

Hawkins says that if we can surrender judgementalism for peace and hatred for love and learn to live through a higher part of our being through forgiveness, we can leave ego behind and live from a level of consciousness that corresponds to a higher level of reality.

"Throughout time, spiritually inspired individuals........have reported that beyond ordinary mind, there is a potential experiential capacity that enables the realization of the presence of the field itself as the source of all existence". Pages 8,9.

By choosing the higher over the lower we actually create an etheric brain which is sensitive to this higher field of energy "beyond the limitation of the protoplasmic brain". Page 9.

If we could accept this, at least on a theoretical level, and live from it, we have the possibility of ceasing to be what we are (ego) and becoming what we are in potential, a spiritual vortex of energy.

But most of us (hopefully not those reading this) are locked in a perpetuating feedback-loop of negativity. It's virtually impossible to accept that we can be wrong and to keep believing that our narrow little peephole is a window on exactly how reality actually is.

Everybody has their own view of just what reality is. But everyone can't be right.

Choice, is choosing what influences we wish to live under.
sdp

[QUOTE=stardustpilgrim;411262]", we have the possibility of ceasing to be what we are (ego) sdp[/QUOTE]

Hi SDP

      Is he talking about a complete elimination of the ego, or only its subordiation under a greater processing system?

love,
Raymond

[QUOTE=flowupstream;412145]Hi Raymond,
I think these last few lines from SDP would be a good place to start. I've read interviews and book excerpts from him in "Science Of Mind" magazine and I think that he believes the entire ego will cease to exist. My own experience doesn't support this but it's possible (I guess) that it will someday. In my experience it is only the content of ego that has fallen away. The structure has remained intact. The structure, how the ego works still looks for appropriate content. In the recognition of "reality", there is nothing that constitutes appropriate content. There was a time in which the structure of ego tried, repeatedly, to make "nothing" into it's content. This, I believe, is what SDP calls "conceptual non-duality". Of coarse, when you realize that nothing has become a concrete concept it too falls away leaving litterally NO-thing to believe in. This falling away, I believe, is what St. John refered to as "the second dark nite". What is left is a tendancy to catergorize input, without the ability to form concrete beliefs, resulting in the opinion that "It may be so"
Your milage may vary,
kip[/QUOTE]

Thanks Kip

     My question may depend on how we define "ego."  I define it in a way that includes it having the task of organizing my everyday field of perception and my relationship with that field.

My ego tells me that I best leave my second story apartment by the door to the steps, and not out through the window.  In other words it generally organizes my field of perception in a way that benefits me.  But from its successful experience with these tasks, it begins to mistakenly think it can comprehensively organize the means for me to attain continual non-contingent happiness.  That task is way beyond its ability.

love,
raymond

Our way of living in the world is based upon the way we perceive the world. For the active spiritual seeker that perception seems to keep evolving and changing based, as you said Sdp, on choosing what influences we wish to live under, or the "path" we choose to take. As I see it, beyond that, when it comes to the metaphysical and existential aspects of our lives, ultimately, "through the eyes of the beholder" is the only measuring stick we are ever going to have.

My way of seeing the nature of reality may be totally different from a Christian mystic, for example, but the fruit of our lives is where I see the common thread - the common Ground of Being. If there is a freedom to be, if there is an overall openness and acceptance of this life as it is, then that life is a fulfilled, authentic, real life, grounded only in the joy of simply being. And the ongoing manifestation of that life in the world seems to be one of love and compassion.