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6 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2008 - 10:38PM #1
ginger89
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Hello all,

I'm about to start my second year of college at a major university, and I'm thankful seeing my peers behave so badly hasn't influenced me in any way. It has only brought me closer to God. My grandmother is a major influence on my life and she says she really likes the SDAs, but we don't know much about them. She doesn't have access to a computer so I'm researching on our behalfs.

Sorry, if that didn't relate much, one prevalent question is do SDAs believe in the Rapture*?

Thanks for all the help!


*The rapture is an event that will take place sometime in the near future. Jesus will come in the air, catch up the Church from the earth, and then return to Heaven with the Church. In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, we are given a clear description of the rapture: "the dead in Christ will rise, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord." All this prior to the Tribulation.
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6 years ago  ::  Jul 16, 2008 - 12:14AM #2
sincerly
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ginger89 wrote:

Hello all,

I'm about to start my second year of college at a major university, and I'm thankful seeing my peers behave so badly hasn't influenced me in any way. It has only brought me closer to God. My grandmother is a major influence on my life and she says she really likes the SDAs, but we don't know much about them. She doesn't have access to a computer so I'm researching on our behalfs.

Sorry, if that didn't relate much, one prevalent question is do SDAs believe in the Rapture*?

Thanks for all the help!


*The rapture is an event that will take place sometime in the near future. Jesus will come in the air, catch up the Church from the earth, and then return to Heaven with the Church. In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, we are given a clear description of the rapture: "the dead in Christ will rise, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord." All this prior to the Tribulation.



Ginger, Welcome to the SDA Forums____and especially to this form for information rather than debate.(since you are specifically wanting to know the Beliefs of the SDA Church.)

1Thess.4:13-18 is certainly a key scripture to understanding the "Second coming of Christ".
Our fundamental belief concerning this subject is:

25. Second Coming of Christ:
The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.)

This isn't all that can be said on the subject, but  is along with thumbnail sketches of all the beliefs as found at this site."""http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

On the "home page", one can find Bible studies which will go into more depth concerning the Second Coming. Found at this site.::http://www.adventist.org/bible_study/index.html.en

If there is any specific question that you do not find the answer to ---please bring it to our attention. Someone will be happy to direct your attention to the scriptures which will correctly answer the question.

Happy studying.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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6 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2008 - 9:36PM #3
ginger89
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Thanks so much for the prompt response. I'm looking into those sources, and we are attending our local SDA church this Saturday for the first time. I'm really excited.
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6 years ago  ::  Jul 21, 2008 - 12:40PM #4
sincerly
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ginger89 wrote:

Thanks so much for the prompt response. I'm looking into those sources, and we are attending our local SDA church this Saturday for the first time. I'm really excited.



My prayer is that your experience was as enjoyable as my sabbath was. And that GOD blessed you and your Grandmother in a very special way.

If there is any questions which I (or any here) can  answer or direct you to ----please just ask.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 6:30AM #5
RayGarton
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Hi, Ginger!  I envy you being in your second year of college.  I remember those years very fondly.  I didn't finish college, unfortunately -- I dropped out to pursue my dream of becoming a writer, which was, and still is, very important to me.  I managed to pull that off, but there've been a few times, particularly in the early years of my career when my writing sales slowed down at times, that I've wished I'd finished college and had some work to fall back on.  What are you studying?

I see you're interested in Seventh-day Adventism.  That's great -- as a former teacher of mine used to say, "You're young -- learn while the learnin's good!"  As a college student, you know the importance of getting all sides of any issue you investigate.  Below, I've provided a link to a few websites that contain a great deal of valuable information that might prove useful to you in your quest to learn about all the aspects of Seventh-day Adventist beliefs and practices.

http://www.truthorfables.com/

http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cul … dventi.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 … t_cult.htm

http://www.macgregorministries.org/seve … facts.html

I hope the information you'll find at these websites will provide you with some help in your search.  Enjoy college -- and have a little extra fun for a middle-aged drop-out like me!  God bless.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 6:30AM #6
RayGarton
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Hi, Ginger!  I envy you being in your second year of college.  I remember those years very fondly.  I didn't finish college, unfortunately -- I dropped out to pursue my dream of becoming a writer, which was, and still is, very important to me.  I managed to pull that off, but there've been a few times, particularly in the early years of my career when my writing sales slowed down at times, that I've wished I'd finished college and had some work to fall back on.  What are you studying?

I see you're interested in Seventh-day Adventism.  That's great -- as a former teacher of mine used to say, "You're young -- learn while the learnin's good!"  As a college student, you know the importance of getting all sides of any issue you investigate.  Below, I've provided a link to a few websites that contain a great deal of valuable information that might prove useful to you in your quest to learn about all the aspects of Seventh-day Adventist beliefs and practices.

http://www.truthorfables.com/

http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cul … dventi.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 … t_cult.htm

http://www.macgregorministries.org/seve … facts.html

I hope the information you'll find at these websites will provide you with some help in your search.  Enjoy college -- and have a little extra fun for a middle-aged drop-out like me!  God bless.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
-- Steve Weinberg
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 1:21PM #7
sincerly
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RayGarton wrote:

Hi, Ginger! I envy you being in your second year of college. I remember those years very fondly. I didn't finish college, unfortunately -- I dropped out to pursue my dream of becoming a writer, which was, and still is, very important to me. I managed to pull that off, but there've been a few times, particularly in the early years of my career when my writing sales slowed down at times, that I've wished I'd finished college and had some work to fall back on. What are you studying?

I see you're interested in Seventh-day Adventism. That's great -- as a former teacher of mine used to say, "You're young -- learn while the learnin's good!" As a college student, you know the importance of getting all sides of any issue you investigate. Below, I've provided a link to a few websites that contain a great deal of valuable information that might prove useful to you in your quest to learn about all the aspects of Seventh-day Adventist beliefs and practices.

http://www.truthorfables.com/

http://www.ellenwhiteexposed.com/

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cul … dventi.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 … t_cult.htm

http://www.macgregorministries.org/seve … facts.html

I hope the information you'll find at these websites will provide you with some help in your search. Enjoy college -- and have a little extra fun for a middle-aged drop-out like me! God bless.



Ray, apparently you refuse to observe the ROC for "beliefnet.com", so how can you direct one to correct truth when you are in error.? And those sites are as corrupt as was Satan to EVE.

You are NOT a SDA and cannot speak for our beliefs.
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Ray, your posts belong on the Discuss forum.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 1:43PM #8
PassingTheTest
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Hi Sincerly,

You said:
Ray, your posts belong on the Discuss forum.

Actually Ray do not debate any argument and it was a friendly post.  He did not raise arguments and Ray certainly pointed a person to information about the religion.  The only board off limits to non-members is the Faith Communities.  that is where people of like faith can communicate.

The Welcome board:  "Welcome Centers are open to ALL for friendly, non-critical conversation."

Peace,
Bob
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 7:06PM #9
sincerly
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PassingTheTest wrote:

Hi Sincerly,

You said:
Ray, your posts belong on the Discuss forum.

Actually Ray do not debate any argument and it was a friendly post. He did not raise arguments and Ray certainly pointed a person to information about the religion. The only board off limits to non-members is the Faith Communities. that is where people of like faith can communicate.

The Welcome board: "Welcome Centers are open to ALL for friendly, non-critical conversation."

Peace,
Bob




Bob, I realize that those Sites which were posted in your eyes are "non-critical", But you are wrong. They generate a very critical debate in themselves. and have nothing to do with the subject "Rapture".

And your post also, generates "debate".
Ginger's quest for information was directed to SDA's and not to "critics of SDA's". whose sites have been proven to be erroneous.
The subtlety of Ray's and your post--- as just innocent information--- is patterned after the "father of lies" which trapped EVE.

Therefore, Bob, if you want to continue this ----take it to the "Discuss" forum----they have threads already devoted to answering these false claims.

Peace,   Sincerly.      As long as sin is practiced, one will search for a means to validate the continuing therein. ANON

The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.---- ANON  (Ellen G. White. 1882)
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 19, 2008 - 7:28PM #10
RayGarton
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I'm sorry for causing so much fuss.  That wasn't my intention.

Ginger wrote:  My grandmother is a major influence on my life and she says she really likes the SDAs, but we don't know much about them.

I was simply providing some information for Ginger in response to this.

Sincerly wrote:  The subtlety of Ray's and your post--- as just innocent information--- is patterned after the "father of lies" which trapped EVE.

I assure you, my intentions were not satanic.  I think you're being a little harsh.  Just because someone posts something you disagree with does not mean that person is debating you.  The websites I linked above provide carefully researched and thoroughly documented information about Seventh-day Adventism.  If you don't agree with what they say, Sincerly, then I suggest you bring that up on the debate board, where it belongs, rather than accusing me of being satanic.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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