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I might have to read The Golden Compass.
4 years ago  ::  Dec 10, 2007 - 2:17AM #1
whichone
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I never heard of the Golden Compass till the movie came out.  When I saw the trailers, I had very little interest in the movie.  I am not really into fantasy or magical fiction......LOL.....I know I know I have admitted to some kind of wierd obsession with Harry Potter......LOL  I have no idea where my obsession comes from.  I am not usually attracted to fantasy or magical fiction.  I have lurked around the beliefnet boards reading the Anti-Golden Compass crusades.  I am intensely interested in the book now. (Still no attraction to the movie)  One critic that wants to protect all Christians from this book said that the Golden Compass series is about killing God.  The critic claimed that the author's intent is to inspire children to help kill God.  This may be hyperpole......very high chance it is just Christian hysterics against a book that might cause people to think about God in a "non-christian" way.  I think this proves that people who hate a book should just claim it is boring and puts them to sleep or just remain silent about it.  Protests do more to sell books than anything else.  I can honestly say that it would never have crossed my mind ever to read The Golden  Compass or in fact even Harry Potter if the Christian would be censors had not protested against them or called for their banning and/or burning.
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2007 - 10:05AM #2
moyzo1
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I would recomend the book. I found it to be a good childrens book. about the equal of the harry potter books in the literature department. If I remember right I found out about it through the internet infidels website. they do release god to death at the end of the third book. more of a mercy killing than a crime though considering that god is senile at that point and the puppet of methusula one of his servants. there is also another series that I remember where god falls to earth in a coma and later dies. I will have to search to find the title though.
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4 years ago  ::  Dec 13, 2007 - 3:18PM #3
whichone
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Sounds interesting.....maybe I have found my Harry Potter replacement......LOL of course I can't replace Harry Potter until I finish listening to the last two audiobooks.
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4 years ago  ::  Jan 21, 2008 - 8:53PM #4
moon_flower
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I know this is an old thread, but I have to put my 2 cents in.  Pullman's "His Dark Materials" series is a maltheist's wet dream.  Seriously. 


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In the third and final book, the hero and heroine descend to the place of the dead to rescue Lyra's best friend.  What they discover is that every person who ever lived is now in this awful hopeless place that is neither Heaven nor Hell.  The "ghosts", as they are called, are eternally harassed by "harpies" who verbally abuse them.  These harpies screech in their ears about all the bad things they did when they were alive. But everyone goes to this place, whether they were "good" or "evil."   One of the ghosts says that the Church lied-- you don't go to Heaven if you were good. 

Lyra and Will lead these poor souls out of the land of the dead; and even though all that awaits them is to have all their molecules and atoms drift apart and become one with the Earth, they are joyous.  It's a beautiful moment, and I cried from start to finish in this section of the book.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2008 - 10:03PM #5
whichone
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I just finished reading The Golden Compass.  It was okay.  I didn't see why evangelicals were so against the book.  I couldn't see how it could turn children in to Atheists or maltheists.  It wasn't even one of the better fiction books that I have read.  It was okay.  I guess I will have to force myself to read the rest of the books to see if I can grok their objection.  Maybe, I don't have the right frame of reference because I totally enjoyed the Dune Series.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2008 - 3:23AM #6
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[QUOTE=whichone;429365]I just finished reading The Golden Compass.  It was okay.  I didn't see why evangelicals were so against the book.  I couldn't see how it could turn children in to Atheists or maltheists.  It wasn't even one of the better fiction books that I have read.  It was okay.  I guess I will have to force myself to read the rest of the books to see if I can grok their objection.  Maybe, I don't have the right frame of reference because I totally enjoyed the Dune Series.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you'll need to get to the second one at least to understand their objects.  Suffice it to say that after I read the second book, I refused to even consider reading the third because I was a devout Catholic at the time and could see where it was going.  Kept that resolution until...shortly after I came to the conclusion that I could no longer be Catholic.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2008 - 11:31PM #7
whichone
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So what did you think overall about the trilogy?
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4 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2008 - 3:39AM #8
whichone
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I just watched the movie.  I thought it was lame because it wasn't anything like the book in my opinion.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2008 - 5:46AM #9
whichone
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I am reading the next book in the dark materials trilogy:  The Subtle Knife.  I like it better than I did the Golden Compass.  I still don't get why people think children reading this book should cause them to become atheists.  LOL, maybe maltheism strong anti-god themes make any atheist  or anti-religion themes in the book seem mild and uninfluential to me.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2008 - 4:18AM #10
whichone
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Okay, I get it now.  So as not to reveal spoilers, I will just say in the last 4 chapters of The Subtle Knife, the book expresses very maltheistic ideas.  If I hadn't returned the book to the library, I would quote some of the passages here.  People who told me the anti-religon stance really showed more clearly in the later books were correct.  I will say that I liked The Subtle Knife much better than The Golden Compass.
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