New Posts For Thread: LDS Priesthood NOT a Hammer for Liberal Wedge Issuehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_IssueThe Long Promised Day: Why the LDS Church Priesthood Ban is NOT a Hammer for Your Liberal Wedge IssueEven if the LDS Church ceased this racist policy because of not wanting to lose the BYU tax exemption, The 1978 change was the right thing to do. I would prefer to assign a nobler motivation to the Brethren than simply wanting to save money. The ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519173205#519173205Even if the LDS Church ceased this racist policy because of not wanting to lose the BYU tax exemption, The 1978 change was the right thing to do. I would prefer to assign a nobler motivation to the Brethren than simply wanting to save money. The aMon, 30 Apr 2012 01:17:11 -0500Uh, I don't think you are allowed to tithe on lottery winngs, Mystichttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519086083#519086083Uh, I don't think you are allowed to tithe on lottery winngs, MysticFri, 27 Apr 2012 12:49:21 -0500What is retired? I am sixty, and my retirement plan is to win the lottery or diu.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519074911#519074911What is retired? I am sixty, and my retirement plan is to win the lottery or diu.Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:48:15 -0500"Very true, Jesse. Remember, though, that we are told to first puzzle it out in our own minds as Oliver Cowdery and then ask for confirmation, not to simply expect knowledge to be poured into empty heads."OH DARN. But I’m retired now, so lifehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519066107#519066107"Very true, Jesse. Remember, though, that we are told to first puzzle it out in our own minds as Oliver Cowdery and then ask for confirmation, not to simply expect knowledge to be poured into empty heads."OH DARN. But I’m retired now, so lifeThu, 26 Apr 2012 21:11:47 -0500Very true, Jesse. Remember, though, that we are told to first puzzle it out in our own minds as Oliver Cowdery and then ask for confirmation, not to simply expect knowledge to be poured into empty heads."8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you musthttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519043405#519043405Very true, Jesse. Remember, though, that we are told to first puzzle it out in our own minds as Oliver Cowdery and then ask for confirmation, not to simply expect knowledge to be poured into empty heads."8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you mustThu, 26 Apr 2012 09:26:11 -0500All in all what I see here is simply proof that one need to studiously and prayerfully get one’s own testimony. We can only rely on God for that sure knowledge of gospel points. Relying on someone else’s learning would be like having yourhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=519026383#519026383All in all what I see here is simply proof that one need to studiously and prayerfully get one’s own testimony. We can only rely on God for that sure knowledge of gospel points. Relying on someone else’s learning would be like having yourWed, 25 Apr 2012 18:12:16 -0500I do not see any compelling evidence for the church to worry about an IRS action against them based on the action in the Bob Jones University case. That case revolved around a public interest in stopping racial discrimination in education not in thehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=518930475#518930475I do not see any compelling evidence for the church to worry about an IRS action against them based on the action in the Bob Jones University case. That case revolved around a public interest in stopping racial discrimination in education not in theMon, 23 Apr 2012 08:50:48 -0500there won't be any hard evidence turn up to support Carter having any direct involvement because it was so long ago, they sent telegrams in those days for cryin out loud.there is however hard evidence in the Bob Jones University case...The IRS againhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=518920369#518920369there won't be any hard evidence turn up to support Carter having any direct involvement because it was so long ago, they sent telegrams in those days for cryin out loud.there is however hard evidence in the Bob Jones University case...The IRS againSun, 22 Apr 2012 20:57:27 -0500I've heard some version of this story. I'm skeptical. It has the virtue of providing a compelling reason for the Church to act - if it were going to act on an external threat - but I'm wondering why Carter would make such a call in 1978. We know ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=518918901#518918901I've heard some version of this story. I'm skeptical. It has the virtue of providing a compelling reason for the Church to act - if it were going to act on an external threat - but I'm wondering why Carter would make such a call in 1978. We know aSun, 22 Apr 2012 19:24:52 -0500“More importantly though, approximately two weeks prior to Kimball’s surprising declaration, President Jimmy Carter had phoned Kimball and informed him that the IRS was seriously considering removing the Mormon Church’s tax exempt shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/29069795/LDS_Priesthood_NOT_a_Hammer_for_Liberal_Wedge_Issue?post_id=518918161#518918161“More importantly though, approximately two weeks prior to Kimball’s surprising declaration, President Jimmy Carter had phoned Kimball and informed him that the IRS was seriously considering removing the Mormon Church’s tax exempt sSun, 22 Apr 2012 18:49:52 -0500