New Posts For Thread: Implicit Truth and the Intercession of Saintshttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_SaintsIn "The Trinity: A Case Study in Implicit Truth" Ron Rhodes established five criterion for establishing valid implicit truth from the Bible, such as the Trinity. (The article can be read here: ) They are:- Implicit truth must be built on the foundatiThe Bible tells the saints, and gives examples, of their praying for one another and requesting prayer for themselves. However, all these examples are of the living praying for the living. There is not one biblical example or exhortation to pray fohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=408530889#408530889The Bible tells the saints, and gives examples, of their praying for one another and requesting prayer for themselves. However, all these examples are of the living praying for the living. There is not one biblical example or exhortation to pray foThu, 01 Apr 2010 21:23:49 -0500It is true that there is a use of the word "pray" which does not imply worship. One example would be in James Leigh Hunt's poem Abou Ben Adhem in which Abou says to an angel "I pray thee, then, write me as one who loves his fellow men." There usualhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=399506441#399506441It is true that there is a use of the word "pray" which does not imply worship. One example would be in James Leigh Hunt's poem Abou Ben Adhem in which Abou says to an angel "I pray thee, then, write me as one who loves his fellow men." There usualMon, 15 Mar 2010 19:55:04 -0500@CalKnox: How is this different than asking a fellow believer to pray for you? It does not diminish Jesus' role as the sole mediator between God and man, and does not detract from the worship due only to God. The word "prayer" here means "earnest reqhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=399283917#399283917@CalKnox: How is this different than asking a fellow believer to pray for you? It does not diminish Jesus' role as the sole mediator between God and man, and does not detract from the worship due only to God. The word "prayer" here means "earnest reqSat, 13 Mar 2010 18:24:09 -0600Sterr: We're in complete agreement on this.WLC:Q. 178. What is prayer?A. Prayer is an offering up of our desires unto God, in the name of Christ, by the help of his Spirit; with confession of our sins, and thankful acknowledgement of his mercies.Q. 1http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=399023993#399023993Sterr: We're in complete agreement on this.WLC:Q. 178. What is prayer?A. Prayer is an offering up of our desires unto God, in the name of Christ, by the help of his Spirit; with confession of our sins, and thankful acknowledgement of his mercies.Q. 1Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:43:58 -0600I think it comes down to this: I don't know whether the departed saints pray for the living or not. If they do, I am grateful, for, as I have often said, I can use all the prayers I can get. But I do know that we, the living, are to pray to no onehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=398660545#398660545I think it comes down to this: I don't know whether the departed saints pray for the living or not. If they do, I am grateful, for, as I have often said, I can use all the prayers I can get. But I do know that we, the living, are to pray to no oneMon, 08 Mar 2010 14:15:39 -0600What you call “implicit truth” is referred to in the Westminster Confession of Faith I:6 as “by good and necessary consequences.” However, God nowhere commands us, explicitly or implicitly, to ask saints or angels to pray forhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=398499785#398499785What you call “implicit truth” is referred to in the Westminster Confession of Faith I:6 as “by good and necessary consequences.” However, God nowhere commands us, explicitly or implicitly, to ask saints or angels to pray forSat, 06 Mar 2010 23:41:16 -0600In "The Trinity: A Case Study in Implicit Truth" Ron Rhodes established five criterion for establishing valid implicit truth from the Bible, such as the Trinity. (The article can be read here: ) They are:- Implicit truth must be built on the foundatihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/22587389/Implicit_Truth_and_the_Intercession_of_Saints?post_id=398016753#398016753In "The Trinity: A Case Study in Implicit Truth" Ron Rhodes established five criterion for establishing valid implicit truth from the Bible, such as the Trinity. (The article can be read here: ) They are:- Implicit truth must be built on the foundatiTue, 02 Mar 2010 19:00:27 -0600