New Posts For Thread: Mark 16:9http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9A poster on another forum, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesn't really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agI'm no expert either but an interesting discussion. I know 7th Day observers who say one reason the Sabbath was changed was simply to be different than the Jews. They insist the Sabbath should not have been changed and the early church had alreadyhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=296052428#296052428I'm no expert either but an interesting discussion. I know 7th Day observers who say one reason the Sabbath was changed was simply to be different than the Jews. They insist the Sabbath should not have been changed and the early church had alreadyWed, 03 Jun 2009 00:44:27 -0500I am much more interested in the liturgical experience of the resurrected Jesus with the breaking of the bread during the Church's (the Body of Christ) celebration of the experience of the living Jesus in their midst. Davehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=296034238#296034238I am much more interested in the liturgical experience of the resurrected Jesus with the breaking of the bread during the Church's (the Body of Christ) celebration of the experience of the living Jesus in their midst. DaveTue, 02 Jun 2009 22:33:46 -0500Templar, this passage of St. Paul is certainly attesting to a resurrection experience in the community shortly after Jesus' crucifixion. But clearly to me Paul is referring to subjective experience. He puts his own experience of the Risen Christ, vhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=296033238#296033238Templar, this passage of St. Paul is certainly attesting to a resurrection experience in the community shortly after Jesus' crucifixion. But clearly to me Paul is referring to subjective experience. He puts his own experience of the Risen Christ, vTue, 02 Jun 2009 22:29:20 -0500Bear, I might take issue with that interpretation of Paul's statements, which are actually the earliest written record we have. Paul, to our great loss, is never in the habit of writing much history. Even his accounts of his own activites are fairlhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295634063#295634063Bear, I might take issue with that interpretation of Paul's statements, which are actually the earliest written record we have. Paul, to our great loss, is never in the habit of writing much history. Even his accounts of his own activites are fairlSun, 31 May 2009 19:59:19 -0500ok dave- im ready to try this again now. i said then that what was done by constanteens sword welding thugs was STARTED in the late 3rd century- in 180 a d or so the bishop of lyons " ireanius he felt a canon and well defined dogmas would lead to ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295630617#295630617ok dave- im ready to try this again now. i said then that what was done by constanteens sword welding thugs was STARTED in the late 3rd century- in 180 a d or so the bishop of lyons " ireanius he felt a canon and well defined dogmas would lead to aSun, 31 May 2009 19:43:47 -0500dude i have no idea were my replywent to!?! i gotta get to work now - when i get back i will try to rewrite it- peace and good and tons o ' love >ohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295526217#295526217dude i have no idea were my replywent to!?! i gotta get to work now - when i get back i will try to rewrite it- peace and good and tons o ' love >oSun, 31 May 2009 10:01:22 -0500Peter_d_roman,re: " " ??????????????????????????????????????http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295506561#295506561Peter_d_roman,re: " " ??????????????????????????????????????Sun, 31 May 2009 05:50:41 -0500http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295410477#295410477Sat, 30 May 2009 17:54:29 -0500Peter, But didn't we just see a reference from one of the Church Fathers to Sunday worship dated at 150 CE? Perhaps the Roman community had begun to celebrate on Sunday to either draw out parallels between the emerging orthodox Christology and thehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295339338#295339338Peter, But didn't we just see a reference from one of the Church Fathers to Sunday worship dated at 150 CE? Perhaps the Roman community had begun to celebrate on Sunday to either draw out parallels between the emerging orthodox Christology and theSat, 30 May 2009 09:20:38 -0500sorry about butting in again - but sunday became the christian sabbath out of respect for constanteens day of pagan worship of " sul invectus" the invincible sun. s i was a very popular roman pagan deity- sometimes in gladiator movies you may see thehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44071/14437799/Mark_16:9?post_id=295277387#295277387sorry about butting in again - but sunday became the christian sabbath out of respect for constanteens day of pagan worship of " sul invectus" the invincible sun. s i was a very popular roman pagan deity- sometimes in gladiator movies you may see theFri, 29 May 2009 21:34:52 -0500