New Posts For Thread: Consider the born again scripturehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scriptureI did not see a section for people interested in the born again aspect of Christianity so I wanted to start one.I consider myself born again because at 16 when i finally got it that Yeshua was the son of God who came to the earth as a man and now hasI agree that we should not base the quality of our faith on emotions (although emotions are a good and important part of being human and certainly can positive play a role in faith). However saying that all Christians are "ipso facto born from above"http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=475628445#475628445I agree that we should not base the quality of our faith on emotions (although emotions are a good and important part of being human and certainly can positive play a role in faith). However saying that all Christians are "ipso facto born from above"Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:23:49 -0600Great post Tawonda. Personal experiences, especially of the high emotionally charged spirit, usually do not coincide with NT doctrine. Not to say that showing emotions is always deceptive; just saying that the emotional state of mind is not evidenthttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=455477637#455477637Great post Tawonda. Personal experiences, especially of the high emotionally charged spirit, usually do not coincide with NT doctrine. Not to say that showing emotions is always deceptive; just saying that the emotional state of mind is not evidentFri, 02 Jul 2010 17:23:56 -0500All Christians are ipso facto "born from above."It isn't helpful to the Body of Christ to make distinctions between Christians based on personal experiences.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=454503753#454503753All Christians are ipso facto "born from above."It isn't helpful to the Body of Christ to make distinctions between Christians based on personal experiences.Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:12:17 -0500I believe the 'born of water' statement refers to being born of the mother's 'water'...amniotic fluid.However....water baptism is indeed for the believer to declare his/her faith in and allegience to the saving work of Jesus.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=454230073#454230073I believe the 'born of water' statement refers to being born of the mother's 'water'...amniotic fluid.However....water baptism is indeed for the believer to declare his/her faith in and allegience to the saving work of Jesus.Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:45:44 -0500Newtonian I like now to refer to The Living God as YHWH, said in a breathy way. Jehovah just is so english. I know a bit about JW's and feel they are off target in some things. But I find them to be devoted and anxious to please the Lord. In the OThttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=454217313#454217313Newtonian I like now to refer to The Living God as YHWH, said in a breathy way. Jehovah just is so english. I know a bit about JW's and feel they are off target in some things. But I find them to be devoted and anxious to please the Lord. In the OTTue, 29 Jun 2010 18:37:19 -0500To all, greetings and peace.John wrote of Jesus, John 2:25, that he knew what was in man. Nicodemus, with his fellow Pharisees, believed that their physical descent from Abraham, according to their father's traditions, assured them of divine acceptahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=454210941#454210941To all, greetings and peace.John wrote of Jesus, John 2:25, that he knew what was in man. Nicodemus, with his fellow Pharisees, believed that their physical descent from Abraham, according to their father's traditions, assured them of divine acceptaTue, 29 Jun 2010 17:38:01 -0500'born again' should best be translated 'born from above'. In other words it is a work of God byhis grace to change us into the image of Christ and so make us children of God.I do not subscribe to the idea that only 10000 have had God so work in theirhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=357709585#357709585'born again' should best be translated 'born from above'. In other words it is a work of God byhis grace to change us into the image of Christ and so make us children of God.I do not subscribe to the idea that only 10000 have had God so work in theirFri, 09 Oct 2009 19:55:57 -0500Newtonian,I have no objection to Jehovah used as the name for God. He has so many. However, I have moved into finding the similarities between the OT and the NT which point to Yeshua as the messiah. I love bringing the messianic Jewish beliefs into mhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=354313217#354313217Newtonian,I have no objection to Jehovah used as the name for God. He has so many. However, I have moved into finding the similarities between the OT and the NT which point to Yeshua as the messiah. I love bringing the messianic Jewish beliefs into mFri, 09 Oct 2009 00:56:30 -0500Birwin4 - I guess you are misinformed about us. Approximately 10,000 of us are born again - including one of my best friends. What distinguishes me (Paul) from him (Mike) is not our belief in and acceptance of Jesus as our personal Savior - we both hhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=354311173#354311173Birwin4 - I guess you are misinformed about us. Approximately 10,000 of us are born again - including one of my best friends. What distinguishes me (Paul) from him (Mike) is not our belief in and acceptance of Jesus as our personal Savior - we both hFri, 09 Oct 2009 00:30:54 -0500I think the scriptures give many figures of speech about a relationship with God because of what Jesus Christ has done in his life, death and resurrection. Such figures as 'born from above' (born again), 'having drunk of the living water' being branchttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/20570597/Consider_the_born_again_scripture?post_id=354308157#354308157I think the scriptures give many figures of speech about a relationship with God because of what Jesus Christ has done in his life, death and resurrection. Such figures as 'born from above' (born again), 'having drunk of the living water' being brancThu, 08 Oct 2009 23:57:18 -0500