New Posts For Thread: Protestantism.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.OK, I'm not exactly sure where this will end up.. I'm thinking as I type, but I wanted to start SOME new thread, and this generalised thought was bobbing around in my brain, so I thought Id try to turn it into a debate topic somehow.OK, so first a liKevinPONeill: That witness is their public commitment to Christ. The Oxford Method is not something used in our ministries, but we are encouraged to have such relationships with each other, as we seek to live holy lives.Is "the method" anything specihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=343518405#343518405KevinPONeill: That witness is their public commitment to Christ. The Oxford Method is not something used in our ministries, but we are encouraged to have such relationships with each other, as we seek to live holy lives.Is "the method" anything speciFri, 28 Aug 2009 13:14:01 -0500KevinPONeill, I am still not sure what you mean by "touchy-feely" in regards to "The Method". Has "The Method" evolved in the UMC, that is, do the Methodists still practice the spiritual discipline of the Oxford Holy Club, or would a potential convehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=343416197#343416197KevinPONeill, I am still not sure what you mean by "touchy-feely" in regards to "The Method". Has "The Method" evolved in the UMC, that is, do the Methodists still practice the spiritual discipline of the Oxford Holy Club, or would a potential conveThu, 27 Aug 2009 19:49:15 -0500KevinPONeill: We are saved into the Church. We maintain our personhood, but it is through union with the Church that brings us to Christ.Union with the true Church is union with Christ since "he himself is in the Church and the Church is in him."Thehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=343210921#343210921KevinPONeill: We are saved into the Church. We maintain our personhood, but it is through union with the Church that brings us to Christ.Union with the true Church is union with Christ since "he himself is in the Church and the Church is in him."TheWed, 26 Aug 2009 13:10:05 -0500KevinPONeill: Methodists DO have ideas about the Faith, and as noted above, they are insufficient on their own to leads us to the way that leads to Eternal Life.I quite agree with John Wesley that "the faith which bringeth not forth repentance, and lhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=343207117#343207117KevinPONeill: Methodists DO have ideas about the Faith, and as noted above, they are insufficient on their own to leads us to the way that leads to Eternal Life.I quite agree with John Wesley that "the faith which bringeth not forth repentance, and lWed, 26 Aug 2009 12:42:55 -0500KevinPONeill: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian Faith, not on the ideas of Faith. See Wesley's Sermon, "" to understand what I have bee saying about our view of "ideas". Belief alone is not enough. That makes us (according to Wesley) an "http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=342330285#342330285KevinPONeill: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian Faith, not on the ideas of Faith. See Wesley's Sermon, "" to understand what I have bee saying about our view of "ideas". Belief alone is not enough. That makes us (according to Wesley) an "Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:22:07 -0500Kevin , Wesley was an Evangelical, he believed in Justification by faith alone.God accepts you as you are but cares too much for you to leave you as you are. He takes you through the process of Sanctification which will last for the rest of your lifehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=332612213#332612213Kevin , Wesley was an Evangelical, he believed in Justification by faith alone.God accepts you as you are but cares too much for you to leave you as you are. He takes you through the process of Sanctification which will last for the rest of your lifeTue, 25 Aug 2009 21:50:23 -0500Kevin,I'll side with Wesley on this one.Christian Baptism and the New Birth are not the same.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=329762641#329762641Kevin,I'll side with Wesley on this one.Christian Baptism and the New Birth are not the same.Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:55:48 -0500KevinPONeill: Methodists received their name from their detractors because of our emphasis on spiritual discipline in order to realize the fruit of God's grace. Grace is free, and offered to all. In that respect Methodism was at odds with Calvinism thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=327557517#327557517KevinPONeill: Methodists received their name from their detractors because of our emphasis on spiritual discipline in order to realize the fruit of God's grace. Grace is free, and offered to all. In that respect Methodism was at odds with Calvinism tTue, 25 Aug 2009 14:34:51 -0500KevinPONeill: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian Faith, not on the ideas of Faith.And I have no problem with that. Mere intellectual assent is not saving faith. Salvation by faith alone is a Protestant idea.KevinPONeill: Belief alone is nohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=324460813#324460813KevinPONeill: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian Faith, not on the ideas of Faith.And I have no problem with that. Mere intellectual assent is not saving faith. Salvation by faith alone is a Protestant idea.KevinPONeill: Belief alone is noTue, 25 Aug 2009 02:39:47 -0500Yes we sing our Faith. Here is a list of many Methodist hymns that you likely know already:see link: We share the Articles of Religion with the Anglicans. You can see the ideas of our Faith here: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian Faithhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44061/14387919/Protestantism.?post_id=323613245#323613245Yes we sing our Faith. Here is a list of many Methodist hymns that you likely know already:see link: We share the Articles of Religion with the Anglicans. You can see the ideas of our Faith here: Methodism emphases is on living the Christian FaithMon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:16 -0500