New Posts For Thread: Once Saved, Always Saved?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_SavedI've been doing some research about the idea of OSAS (once saved, always saved). I've come across many different sources, both in favor of OSAS and also against. From what I've researched, the various positions can be boiled down to one's view of salThere is no point, so don't bother.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=522453259#522453259There is no point, so don't bother.Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:29:04 -0500Back on point...start with pages 1-5....http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=522356299#522356299Back on point...start with pages 1-5....Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:13:21 -0500Jul 3, 2012 -- 9:29PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: Actually, they do. You assume that I know what isn't true. I thought you would have read them. My mistake.No, they don't. And I am familiar with the passages cited, which is why I know that theyhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521528135#521528135Jul 3, 2012 -- 9:29PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: Actually, they do. You assume that I know what isn't true. I thought you would have read them. My mistake.No, they don't. And I am familiar with the passages cited, which is why I know that theyTue, 03 Jul 2012 21:39:56 -0500JACK: Again, simply your opinion. Actually, I do believe the Scirpture claims to be inerrant. (Ps. 12:6: 119:89, 96; Pr. 30:5; Mt. 24:35; Titus 1:2; Hb. 6:18).NAMCHUCK: None of these passages make reference to the Bible as it stands, as well you knhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521526269#521526269JACK: Again, simply your opinion. Actually, I do believe the Scirpture claims to be inerrant. (Ps. 12:6: 119:89, 96; Pr. 30:5; Mt. 24:35; Titus 1:2; Hb. 6:18).NAMCHUCK: None of these passages make reference to the Bible as it stands, as well you knTue, 03 Jul 2012 19:29:09 -0500JACK: I have no idea what the "projection game" is; I'm not one for games. But I will agree with you on note, there certainly isn't any doubt who's all bluster.Well, Jack, projections are usually carried out unconsciously, so I'm not surprised thathttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521521801#521521801JACK: I have no idea what the "projection game" is; I'm not one for games. But I will agree with you on note, there certainly isn't any doubt who's all bluster.Well, Jack, projections are usually carried out unconsciously, so I'm not surprised thatTue, 03 Jul 2012 16:19:37 -0500Jack: It's the "result" of everything that has been described before it. The summary doesn't have to be in the same order.NAMCHUCK: That is such a weak response, Jack. In fact, it's a non-response. If the use of the word 'toledot' involves a reversahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521517059#521517059Jack: It's the "result" of everything that has been described before it. The summary doesn't have to be in the same order.NAMCHUCK: That is such a weak response, Jack. In fact, it's a non-response. If the use of the word 'toledot' involves a reversaTue, 03 Jul 2012 14:24:52 -0500Jul 2, 2012 -- 7:45PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: It certainly does. It does no such thing.Jack: It's the "result" of everything that has been described before it. The summary doesn't have to be in the same order.That is such a weak response, Jackhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521494191#521494191Jul 2, 2012 -- 7:45PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: It certainly does. It does no such thing.Jack: It's the "result" of everything that has been described before it. The summary doesn't have to be in the same order.That is such a weak response, JackMon, 02 Jul 2012 23:17:59 -0500JACK: We've been walloped with a couple of powerful storms with power out and Internet down. Just beginning to dig ourselves out. JACK: I did and I appreciated it when you were engaged in a thoughtful and academic debate which you now seem to havehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521488665#521488665JACK: We've been walloped with a couple of powerful storms with power out and Internet down. Just beginning to dig ourselves out. JACK: I did and I appreciated it when you were engaged in a thoughtful and academic debate which you now seem to haveMon, 02 Jul 2012 17:45:53 -0500Jun 30, 2012 -- 9:51PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: I did and I appreciated it when you were engaged in a thoughtful and academic debate which you now seem to have shied away from. I then responded to you point with the TOLEDOTH explanation. I havehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521429135#521429135Jun 30, 2012 -- 9:51PM, five_point_dad wrote:JACK: I did and I appreciated it when you were engaged in a thoughtful and academic debate which you now seem to have shied away from. I then responded to you point with the TOLEDOTH explanation. I haveSat, 30 Jun 2012 22:03:55 -0500JACK: I'm not protecting anything. You stated your opinion and I'm asking upon what do you base it, and so far, you've flatly refused to provide anything.NAMCHUCK: You very plainly are projecting, Jack, and you're also contradicting yourself as youhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/27651929/Once_Saved,_Always_Saved?post_id=521427631#521427631JACK: I'm not protecting anything. You stated your opinion and I'm asking upon what do you base it, and so far, you've flatly refused to provide anything.NAMCHUCK: You very plainly are projecting, Jack, and you're also contradicting yourself as youSat, 30 Jun 2012 19:51:54 -0500