New Posts For Thread: When Did Christianity Begin?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_BeginFirst, some.............one here will recognize the question as being plagiarized from another source.The general range of thinking on the subject dates the beginnings of Christianity as starting with Jesus. Either with His birth, or with the beginniSome have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=498056541#498056541Some have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you sSun, 05 Jun 2011 23:08:15 -0500They ARE near-Contemporaneus, though ...http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480397741#480397741They ARE near-Contemporaneus, though ...Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:45:06 -0600Here's is what I found on Wells: My present standpoint is: this complex is not all post-Pauline (Q in its earliest form may well be as early as ca. A.D. 40), and it is not all mythical. The essential point, as I see it, is that what is authentic inhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480397537#480397537Here's is what I found on Wells: My present standpoint is: this complex is not all post-Pauline (Q in its earliest form may well be as early as ca. A.D. 40), and it is not all mythical. The essential point, as I see it, is that what is authentic inTue, 04 Jan 2011 18:43:00 -0600My Understanding is that "The (so-called) Historical Jesus of Nazareth" and "The Kerygmatic Christ of Faith" are inter-combined COMPLEXLY ...The Fact that The Bible Stories HAVE become greatly Elaborated over Time, picking up Legendary Features and ehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480395877#480395877My Understanding is that "The (so-called) Historical Jesus of Nazareth" and "The Kerygmatic Christ of Faith" are inter-combined COMPLEXLY ...The Fact that The Bible Stories HAVE become greatly Elaborated over Time, picking up Legendary Features and eTue, 04 Jan 2011 18:27:35 -0600Some have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480395193#480395193Some have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you sTue, 04 Jan 2011 18:21:14 -0600My Bad ... I neglected to advise -- BEFORE digging into Pelikan's EXCELLENT five Volumes, read FIRST:Jaroslav Pelikan, "Development of Christian Doctrine: Some Historical Prolegomena."http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480351137#480351137My Bad ... I neglected to advise -- BEFORE digging into Pelikan's EXCELLENT five Volumes, read FIRST:Jaroslav Pelikan, "Development of Christian Doctrine: Some Historical Prolegomena."Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:51:08 -0600I agree with this, and the beginnings of a country is a good analogy.[/quote]There were "Peter" factions, as found in the Ebionites and the authors of the Pseudo-Clementines. There were "Paul" factions, like the Marcionites, Valentinians, etc. Therehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480326037#480326037I agree with this, and the beginnings of a country is a good analogy.[/quote]There were "Peter" factions, as found in the Ebionites and the authors of the Pseudo-Clementines. There were "Paul" factions, like the Marcionites, Valentinians, etc. ThereTue, 04 Jan 2011 05:56:24 -0600I have read just a bit about mythicist positions, What'sonsecond, but I'm not familiar with any serious scholars (by that I mean historians with Ph.D's or something commensurate) who entertain this position. (I'm a stickler for credentials.)The gospehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480325557#480325557I have read just a bit about mythicist positions, What'sonsecond, but I'm not familiar with any serious scholars (by that I mean historians with Ph.D's or something commensurate) who entertain this position. (I'm a stickler for credentials.)The gospeTue, 04 Jan 2011 05:48:29 -0600I agree with this, and the beginnings of a country is a good analogy.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480277941#480277941I agree with this, and the beginnings of a country is a good analogy.Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:39:55 -0600Some have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44041/26518805/When_Did_Christianity_Begin?post_id=480275053#480275053Some have suggested that Mark is allegorical fiction of a failed Pauline tradition written by a possible member or follower. That Peter, James, and John are recast by the author of Mark as disciples of an earthly Jesus that represents Israel as you sMon, 03 Jan 2011 15:14:35 -0600