New Posts For Thread: Olympics website: Jerusalem capital of ‘Palestine’http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’An innocent mistake?Olympics website: Jerusalem capital of ‘Palestine’By JONNY PAUL JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT05/01/2012 02:21Organizers of 2012 London Olympic Games apologized after website left Israel without capital.Organizers of theThe statement was in accord with the comment I was responding to: Freedom of religion doesn't exist in any Muslim country, and certainly not in any of Israel's neighbors. In context of the erroneous impressions many westerners hold re religious righthttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519386437#519386437The statement was in accord with the comment I was responding to: Freedom of religion doesn't exist in any Muslim country, and certainly not in any of Israel's neighbors. In context of the erroneous impressions many westerners hold re religious rightSun, 06 May 2012 08:42:34 -0500Miraj, in message #36 you began with:"Freedom of religion doesn't exist in Israel."In reply I wrote:"I think that there has been a bit of exageration in the claims that there is no religious freedom in the State of Israel ."Your response was:"The clahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519382583#519382583Miraj, in message #36 you began with:"Freedom of religion doesn't exist in Israel."In reply I wrote:"I think that there has been a bit of exageration in the claims that there is no religious freedom in the State of Israel ."Your response was:"The claSun, 06 May 2012 06:15:39 -0500In order for Utah to become a state, it had to drop the allowance of plural marriage for Mormon men. The LDS Church itself dropped the allowance, so it is not allowed for any mainstream Mormon anywhere in the world.So, it is not an apt analogy to sahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381915#519381915In order for Utah to become a state, it had to drop the allowance of plural marriage for Mormon men. The LDS Church itself dropped the allowance, so it is not allowed for any mainstream Mormon anywhere in the world.So, it is not an apt analogy to saSun, 06 May 2012 05:38:04 -0500The high degree if hypocrisy on the part of Israel's sychophants is based on a denial of the facts on the ground. Many of them here have never even been to Israel and/or the ME countries they compare it to. As for the notion of the one state solutihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381755#519381755The high degree if hypocrisy on the part of Israel's sychophants is based on a denial of the facts on the ground. Many of them here have never even been to Israel and/or the ME countries they compare it to. As for the notion of the one state solutiSun, 06 May 2012 05:30:01 -0500The claim was that there is limited freedom of religion, not that there is no freedom of religion, as stated above, so there is no exaggeration involved. There is also no claim that it is illegal for Jews to convert out of Judaism, but proselytizinghttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381565#519381565The claim was that there is limited freedom of religion, not that there is no freedom of religion, as stated above, so there is no exaggeration involved. There is also no claim that it is illegal for Jews to convert out of Judaism, but proselytizingSun, 06 May 2012 05:18:59 -0500>>>>>> Habesor,I always enjoy your posts even though I do not always agree with you.There are a lot of truth in what you expressed here. However most Isralis and government of Israel starts with the "Baseline" assumtion that, it is OK for Israel to ghttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381415#519381415>>>>>> Habesor,I always enjoy your posts even though I do not always agree with you.There are a lot of truth in what you expressed here. However most Isralis and government of Israel starts with the "Baseline" assumtion that, it is OK for Israel to gSun, 06 May 2012 05:13:14 -0500By the way, Miraj, do you consider the United States as a beacon of religious freedom, even though the practice of certain elements of the Mormon faith have been made illegal? I ask this only because I wonder if you think Israel should be compared tohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381163#519381163By the way, Miraj, do you consider the United States as a beacon of religious freedom, even though the practice of certain elements of the Mormon faith have been made illegal? I ask this only because I wonder if you think Israel should be compared toSun, 06 May 2012 04:55:13 -0500Miraj, you wrote:"The problem with this argument, practically the only one that anyone ever makes here, is that the best anyone can do is compare Israel favorably to despotic governments, not freedom loving countries." Of course, I see things differehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519381117#519381117Miraj, you wrote:"The problem with this argument, practically the only one that anyone ever makes here, is that the best anyone can do is compare Israel favorably to despotic governments, not freedom loving countries." Of course, I see things differeSun, 06 May 2012 04:51:29 -0500The problem with this argument, practically the only one that anyone ever makes here, is that the best anyone can do is compare Israel favorably to despotic governments, not freedom loving countries. That's because a country that prefers one religiohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519380073#519380073The problem with this argument, practically the only one that anyone ever makes here, is that the best anyone can do is compare Israel favorably to despotic governments, not freedom loving countries. That's because a country that prefers one religioSun, 06 May 2012 03:10:19 -0500I think that there has been a bit of exageration in the claims that there is no religious freedom in the State of Israel or that it is illegal to convert from Judaism to another religion. Even the prohibition on proselytizers is a misstatement of fahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/44011/29092935/Olympics_website:_Jerusalem_capital_of_‘Palestine’?post_id=519378887#519378887I think that there has been a bit of exageration in the claims that there is no religious freedom in the State of Israel or that it is illegal to convert from Judaism to another religion. Even the prohibition on proselytizers is a misstatement of faSun, 06 May 2012 00:39:46 -0500