New Posts For Thread: 150+ years of scientific hard work has not resulted in "mere speculation"http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculationEveryone with any sense and honesty knows that the vast amount of scientific research and even vaster amounts of evidence and observation has established the very firm scientific credentials of evolution and the solid and uncontroversial theory of evDittohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522507947#522507947DittoWed, 01 Aug 2012 14:56:25 -0500OnComingTrain and Adam930, thank you both for your last excellent posts. Both were nicely expressed and conveyed some very pertinent points concisely and clearly.I wish I could write like that!http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522505207#522505207OnComingTrain and Adam930, thank you both for your last excellent posts. Both were nicely expressed and conveyed some very pertinent points concisely and clearly.I wish I could write like that!Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:36:46 -0500It's fascinating to me and mind boggling that there are "Educators" (or those who profess to be) that can have such WRONG views as Iama and are "educating" others about it.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522503399#522503399It's fascinating to me and mind boggling that there are "Educators" (or those who profess to be) that can have such WRONG views as Iama and are "educating" others about it.Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:43:01 -0500And by sheer luck, the flood resulted in 99% of all fossils to order themselves neatly in the geological strata, where the simplest organisms are at the bottom and the more complex ones are on top? Not only that, but the flood somehow reshuffled allhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522492677#522492677And by sheer luck, the flood resulted in 99% of all fossils to order themselves neatly in the geological strata, where the simplest organisms are at the bottom and the more complex ones are on top? Not only that, but the flood somehow reshuffled allWed, 01 Aug 2012 07:13:00 -0500I think I have finally figured out what your misconception is regarding the Scientific Method. You appear to believe that the only kinds of experiments that can be done are of the test tube and bunsen burner variety. You could not be more wrong. Agaihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522492569#522492569I think I have finally figured out what your misconception is regarding the Scientific Method. You appear to believe that the only kinds of experiments that can be done are of the test tube and bunsen burner variety. You could not be more wrong. AgaiWed, 01 Aug 2012 07:08:29 -0500That could not be further from the truth. Historical hypotheses are tested via the Scientific Method, just as are hypotheses about present or ongoing phenomena. The scientific method (crudely) is observe-hypothesize-propose/execute test-publish, andhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522487699#522487699That could not be further from the truth. Historical hypotheses are tested via the Scientific Method, just as are hypotheses about present or ongoing phenomena. The scientific method (crudely) is observe-hypothesize-propose/execute test-publish, andWed, 01 Aug 2012 01:10:39 -0500iama: Functional Biology requires The Scientific Method of Investigation.Historical Biology has wiggled its way out of the requirement of The Scientific Method of Investigation.All Functional / Operational sciences require that theories be tested byhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522486529#522486529iama: Functional Biology requires The Scientific Method of Investigation.Historical Biology has wiggled its way out of the requirement of The Scientific Method of Investigation.All Functional / Operational sciences require that theories be tested byTue, 31 Jul 2012 23:14:22 -0500iama: Oh boy! The Flood described in Genesis has never happened, again! You are failing to comprehend what took place during that year-long event! The global Flood destroyed all things during 150 days of the Ascending Stage of The Flood. Then, Thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522486409#522486409iama: Oh boy! The Flood described in Genesis has never happened, again! You are failing to comprehend what took place during that year-long event! The global Flood destroyed all things during 150 days of the Ascending Stage of The Flood. Then, TTue, 31 Jul 2012 23:05:34 -0500[/quote]Interesting post, Iama.Funny, isn't it, how in your apparent quote of a Wikipedia article, to which you linked, it looks like either Mayr or Wikipedia is giving credence to the idea of "The Creation" while an examination of the actual articlhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522483521#522483521[/quote]Interesting post, Iama.Funny, isn't it, how in your apparent quote of a Wikipedia article, to which you linked, it looks like either Mayr or Wikipedia is giving credence to the idea of "The Creation" while an examination of the actual articlTue, 31 Jul 2012 20:09:57 -0500[/quote]I would also like to thank you for this wonderful example of YEC quote mining. The above portion in purple DIRECTLY proceeds and follows your paragraph that starts "the changes in biology..." The bold part is my emphasis. Interesting how seeihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43991/29217989/150_years_of_scientific_hard_work_has_not_resulted_in_mere_speculation?post_id=522481477#522481477[/quote]I would also like to thank you for this wonderful example of YEC quote mining. The above portion in purple DIRECTLY proceeds and follows your paragraph that starts "the changes in biology..." The bold part is my emphasis. Interesting how seeiTue, 31 Jul 2012 18:36:49 -0500