New Posts For Thread: The Only Reasonable Position on Abortion and the Federal Government.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.Rep. Paul explained, “Life comes from our creator, not our government. Liberty comes from our creator, not from government. Therefore, the purpose, if there is to be a purpose, for government is to protect life and liberty.”FULL ARTICLEIsShe may be a good second choice, but I have a couple of problems with her. I think she is weak on scaling back the government and the military industrial complex. She grates against me because she is so loud. She is too self-promoting. She tried,http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500870233#500870233She may be a good second choice, but I have a couple of problems with her. I think she is weak on scaling back the government and the military industrial complex. She grates against me because she is so loud. She is too self-promoting. She tried,Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:59:20 -0500She may be a good second choice, but I have a couple of problems with her. I think she is weak on scaling back the government and the military industrial complex. She grates against me because she is so loud. She is too self-promoting. She tried,http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500864637#500864637She may be a good second choice, but I have a couple of problems with her. I think she is weak on scaling back the government and the military industrial complex. She grates against me because she is so loud. She is too self-promoting. She tried,Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:27:01 -0500Would you care to be a little more specific?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500864329#500864329Would you care to be a little more specific?Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:22:53 -0500No, because while life comes from the creator, liberty does not. Liberty comes from government. It is bestowed by government. If liberty came from God as Paul says, then it would have been there even while it has been banned in history. But it wasn'thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500864173#500864173No, because while life comes from the creator, liberty does not. Liberty comes from government. It is bestowed by government. If liberty came from God as Paul says, then it would have been there even while it has been banned in history. But it wasn'tSun, 26 Jun 2011 18:21:01 -0500Erey, not only do I find nothing to argue with in this post of yours, but I agree with every word of it.I believe that indeed, Paul (and many Libertarians) feel that abortion should be legal simply because it is a privacy issue, and further that govehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500863929#500863929Erey, not only do I find nothing to argue with in this post of yours, but I agree with every word of it.I believe that indeed, Paul (and many Libertarians) feel that abortion should be legal simply because it is a privacy issue, and further that goveSun, 26 Jun 2011 18:16:51 -0500Gotta run. I will get to the others later today, God willing. Simonhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500826805#500826805Gotta run. I will get to the others later today, God willing. SimonSun, 26 Jun 2011 10:00:02 -0500There is no government funding for abortions. The Hyde Amendment makes that not possible.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_AmendmentFunding for Planned Parenthood goes for family planning guidance, cancer testing for females, prenatal care, etc......NOT fohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500826689#500826689There is no government funding for abortions. The Hyde Amendment makes that not possible.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_AmendmentFunding for Planned Parenthood goes for family planning guidance, cancer testing for females, prenatal care, etc......NOT foSun, 26 Jun 2011 09:58:45 -0500And, what of the life and liberty of the child growing within her womb? Who speaks for their life and liberty if not those who do not support a choice when it comes to the life of the unborn?First, I am not sure how the self defeating paradox of youhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500826349#500826349And, what of the life and liberty of the child growing within her womb? Who speaks for their life and liberty if not those who do not support a choice when it comes to the life of the unborn?First, I am not sure how the self defeating paradox of youSun, 26 Jun 2011 09:54:41 -0500To answer your second question: probably none of the other candidates will actually veto any spending bill that funds abortions.Given that Michelle Bachman's political career started as a pro-life activist, I think we can be reasonably sure she willhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500822633#500822633To answer your second question: probably none of the other candidates will actually veto any spending bill that funds abortions.Given that Michelle Bachman's political career started as a pro-life activist, I think we can be reasonably sure she willSun, 26 Jun 2011 09:08:18 -0500From a board that gets all kinds of activity, to one that gets over 90% less. (350,000 posts compared to 25,000).Not sure how that's wise for the advertisers. Oh well.And here I thought that a) abortion was a political issue and b) Beliefnet was abohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/27925401/The_Only_Reasonable_Position_on_Abortion_and_the_Federal_Government.?post_id=500797717#500797717From a board that gets all kinds of activity, to one that gets over 90% less. (350,000 posts compared to 25,000).Not sure how that's wise for the advertisers. Oh well.And here I thought that a) abortion was a political issue and b) Beliefnet was aboSat, 25 Jun 2011 21:16:01 -0500