New Posts For Thread: Dred Scott Reduxhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_ReduxThis isn't related to abortion per se, but it does contain the issue of being a person, and I know how much some of you love to rely on the whole "It's not a person!" defense when arguing for abortion ;)LinkAren't you glad to know that you live in aOkay... Where to begin...1.) You, obviously, didn't read the article, because if you did you'd notice that nowhere in the article does it state that slaves weren't persons. Nowhere. If you had indeed read the link like you said you did, you'd noticehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386926405#386926405Okay... Where to begin...1.) You, obviously, didn't read the article, because if you did you'd notice that nowhere in the article does it state that slaves weren't persons. Nowhere. If you had indeed read the link like you said you did, you'd noticeMon, 18 Jan 2010 12:52:12 -0600Well [as usual] you guessed wrong.And what does the "name" of the "title" have to do with the fact that either the former slaves or enemy combatants are still "persons" no matter that some crazed neo-con thinks otherwise?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386924817#386924817Well [as usual] you guessed wrong.And what does the "name" of the "title" have to do with the fact that either the former slaves or enemy combatants are still "persons" no matter that some crazed neo-con thinks otherwise?Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:38:26 -0600The Dred Scott decision was not one of personhood; Scott was unquestionably a person. If he had not been a person, he would never have been permitted to sue four times for his freedom. The point of the decision was that he was not a citizen, and athttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386924293#386924293The Dred Scott decision was not one of personhood; Scott was unquestionably a person. If he had not been a person, he would never have been permitted to sue four times for his freedom. The point of the decision was that he was not a citizen, and atMon, 18 Jan 2010 12:33:03 -0600I didn't name any names but... You're one of the "It's not a person!" apologists, among others, constantly using it as the basis for your arguments as to why abortion is acceptable. Therefore, if you're going to defend arbitrarily defining one grouphttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386917969#386917969I didn't name any names but... You're one of the "It's not a person!" apologists, among others, constantly using it as the basis for your arguments as to why abortion is acceptable. Therefore, if you're going to defend arbitrarily defining one groupMon, 18 Jan 2010 11:23:40 -0600The "Dred Scott" case never declared "slaves" as being "non-persons" ....What the court did say, was that they weren't "citizens" under the U.S. Constitution but in fact they were citizens of other "Sovereign" nations.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386909153#386909153The "Dred Scott" case never declared "slaves" as being "non-persons" ....What the court did say, was that they weren't "citizens" under the U.S. Constitution but in fact they were citizens of other "Sovereign" nations.Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:41:21 -0600What, exactly, does this have to do with abortion? When was the last time a full grown, adult terrorist was aborted?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386898489#386898489What, exactly, does this have to do with abortion? When was the last time a full grown, adult terrorist was aborted?Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:14:22 -0600This isn't related to abortion per se, but it does contain the issue of being a person, and I know how much some of you love to rely on the whole "It's not a person!" defense when arguing for abortion ;)LinkAren't you glad to know that you live in ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/22234745/Dred_Scott_Redux?post_id=386889173#386889173This isn't related to abortion per se, but it does contain the issue of being a person, and I know how much some of you love to rely on the whole "It's not a person!" defense when arguing for abortion ;)LinkAren't you glad to know that you live in aMon, 18 Jan 2010 01:05:01 -0600