New Posts For Thread: Majority of Americans now ‘pro-life,’ poll sayshttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_saysFor first time in 15 years of Gallup polling, ‘pro-choice’ is overtakenFirst of all, this makes me extremely happy for the future. Now, with that being said, Nancy Keenan is an idiot. Very few people, relatively speaking, are single-issueOK, I did make an error -- the study I was citing was on teen pregnancy and abortion rates. I do apologize for the confusion on my part there. Still is interesting to see that despite the restrictions MS has on abortion, it still ranks 28 in teen abohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294969168#294969168OK, I did make an error -- the study I was citing was on teen pregnancy and abortion rates. I do apologize for the confusion on my part there. Still is interesting to see that despite the restrictions MS has on abortion, it still ranks 28 in teen aboThu, 28 May 2009 09:28:56 -0500I never said abstinence only programs are effective. You said abstinence isn't effective,I did not say abstinence isn't effective. If you say I did, produce the post. I can't continue a discussion in which each time you post you say I am making claimhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294962918#294962918I never said abstinence only programs are effective. You said abstinence isn't effective,I did not say abstinence isn't effective. If you say I did, produce the post. I can't continue a discussion in which each time you post you say I am making claimThu, 28 May 2009 08:35:35 -0500If that doesn't work, put the article title into google; I did and the first link to come back took me to the abstract. Here's the article's title: Complications after Second Trimester Surgical and Medical Abortionhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294961858#294961858If that doesn't work, put the article title into google; I did and the first link to come back took me to the abstract. Here's the article's title: Complications after Second Trimester Surgical and Medical AbortionThu, 28 May 2009 08:25:31 -0500I never said that a man couldn't have views on pregnancy. However, while you are discussing the scientific angle, it is an event that is extremely physical for a woman, and to presume you have equal knowledge of the hormonal shifts that occur and howhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294957396#294957396I never said that a man couldn't have views on pregnancy. However, while you are discussing the scientific angle, it is an event that is extremely physical for a woman, and to presume you have equal knowledge of the hormonal shifts that occur and howThu, 28 May 2009 07:34:15 -0500If that's the case, then about 99.89% of all academia is also a lie.No, most of them actually come up with short, simple, "elegant", explanations.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294919419#294919419If that's the case, then about 99.89% of all academia is also a lie.No, most of them actually come up with short, simple, "elegant", explanations.Wed, 27 May 2009 23:00:50 -0500If by "here to impress other PL's and not enter into honest discussions" you mean "ignoring the evidence which doesn't suit PC'ers" then, yes, I'm here to impress other PL's and not enter into honest discussions :Phttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294868693#294868693If by "here to impress other PL's and not enter into honest discussions" you mean "ignoring the evidence which doesn't suit PC'ers" then, yes, I'm here to impress other PL's and not enter into honest discussions :PWed, 27 May 2009 18:50:10 -0500They're not "assumptions" and no, it doesn't. That's such a ridiculous argument, as it assumes that one needs to be a woman to speak of abortion or pregnancy. It's ridiculousness is shown when applied elsewhere (See one of my previous posts).You arehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294867073#294867073They're not "assumptions" and no, it doesn't. That's such a ridiculous argument, as it assumes that one needs to be a woman to speak of abortion or pregnancy. It's ridiculousness is shown when applied elsewhere (See one of my previous posts).You areWed, 27 May 2009 18:43:35 -0500Okay. Sorry for the delay. I've been busy and stuff =DI never said abstinence only programs are effective. You said abstinence isn't effective, I said that's not exactly true and posted a study on the effects of both sex ed and abstinence (Once againhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294864893#294864893Okay. Sorry for the delay. I've been busy and stuff =DI never said abstinence only programs are effective. You said abstinence isn't effective, I said that's not exactly true and posted a study on the effects of both sex ed and abstinence (Once againWed, 27 May 2009 18:32:51 -0500There is this old saying, and for the most part it's true; "the longer the explanation the bigger the lie."I haven't bothered reading several posters here for a long time. They're here to impress other PLs and not enter into honest discussions.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294549383#294549383There is this old saying, and for the most part it's true; "the longer the explanation the bigger the lie."I haven't bothered reading several posters here for a long time. They're here to impress other PLs and not enter into honest discussions.Tue, 26 May 2009 11:31:11 -0500Bei Having gone through both a miscarriage and a live birth, I think that qualifies me more about the effects of a prenancy than your assumptions.You are correct that I should not have assumed you reserved your contempt for women; you seem to feel ihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43971/14584443/Majority_of_Americans_now_‘pro-life,’_poll_says?post_id=294540496#294540496Bei Having gone through both a miscarriage and a live birth, I think that qualifies me more about the effects of a prenancy than your assumptions.You are correct that I should not have assumed you reserved your contempt for women; you seem to feel iTue, 26 May 2009 10:24:55 -0500