New Posts For Thread: Does the Karma theory make people insensitive to suffering?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_sufferingDoes the Karma theory make people insensitive to suffering? Some people say that. They say that since according to the Karma theory a person suffers due to his own bad karma, therefore people who believe in the Karma theory do not help persons who suI would tend to think that the theory of karma makes you sensitive to suffering rather than insensitive to suffering. When you give knowledge to someone or to society in general about how the gunas of material nature ( ignorance and passion ) can leahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520936001#520936001I would tend to think that the theory of karma makes you sensitive to suffering rather than insensitive to suffering. When you give knowledge to someone or to society in general about how the gunas of material nature ( ignorance and passion ) can leaSun, 17 Jun 2012 15:15:12 -0500> to serve others in the spirit of serving GodSo he could be another contestant, given his advaita view.Hare KrsnaYour servant, bh. Janwww.vrindavan-dham.comwww.veda.harekrsna.czjIve dayA nAme ruci vaiSNava sevanaIhA chArA dharma nAhi zuna sanAtana"Hhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520914933#520914933> to serve others in the spirit of serving GodSo he could be another contestant, given his advaita view.Hare KrsnaYour servant, bh. Janwww.vrindavan-dham.comwww.veda.harekrsna.czjIve dayA nAme ruci vaiSNava sevanaIhA chArA dharma nAhi zuna sanAtana"HSun, 17 Jun 2012 03:40:49 -0500One could but one can't. Ramakrishna strongly criticized the idea of doing charity to others. The very idea of charity implies that a superior person is doing favors to an inferior person. Ramakrishna says that we only have the right to serve othershttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520892923#520892923One could but one can't. Ramakrishna strongly criticized the idea of doing charity to others. The very idea of charity implies that a superior person is doing favors to an inferior person. Ramakrishna says that we only have the right to serve othersSat, 16 Jun 2012 11:27:43 -0500One could reply that Ramakrishna M doesn't predate Christian M in India which could be seen as its, at least indirect, inspiration.Btw, would you know who created the slogan "madhava seva - manava seva"? I have so far two contestants: Samartha Ramdashttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520882817#520882817One could reply that Ramakrishna M doesn't predate Christian M in India which could be seen as its, at least indirect, inspiration.Btw, would you know who created the slogan "madhava seva - manava seva"? I have so far two contestants: Samartha RamdasSat, 16 Jun 2012 06:29:29 -0500Jm8, Yes, critics do say that. They are not right. Ramakrishna Mission's service is derived from Ramakrishna's teaching: Siva Jnane Jiva seva (service to Jivas by considering Jivas as Siva) and not because of Christian missions. The point I triehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520855379#520855379Jm8, Yes, critics do say that. They are not right. Ramakrishna Mission's service is derived from Ramakrishna's teaching: Siva Jnane Jiva seva (service to Jivas by considering Jivas as Siva) and not because of Christian missions. The point I trieFri, 15 Jun 2012 11:19:59 -0500g: The critics will say that this is only a modern reaction to Christian missions.Traditionally there didn't have to be any organizations to help disadvantaged persons since they were taken care of by their family and village. w: Karma is also in thehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520840897#520840897g: The critics will say that this is only a modern reaction to Christian missions.Traditionally there didn't have to be any organizations to help disadvantaged persons since they were taken care of by their family and village. w: Karma is also in theFri, 15 Jun 2012 02:56:22 -0500People who criticize karma generally don't believe that there is an eternal soul that transmigrates through different material bodies. Karma just isn't an eastern concept, Edgar Cayce helped a lot of people with phobias through past life regression,http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520822939#520822939People who criticize karma generally don't believe that there is an eternal soul that transmigrates through different material bodies. Karma just isn't an eastern concept, Edgar Cayce helped a lot of people with phobias through past life regression,Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:58:42 -0500The very fact that there are so many Hindu organizations that are serving poor and disadvantaged people shows up the mistake of the critics of the Karma theory.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520816943#520816943The very fact that there are so many Hindu organizations that are serving poor and disadvantaged people shows up the mistake of the critics of the Karma theory.Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:24:46 -0500Telling someone that they are suffering from bad karma is in a sense helping them if they are intelligent enough to understand. Karma basically means that your actions carry with them consequences, is not wisdom itself based on karma?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520749337#520749337Telling someone that they are suffering from bad karma is in a sense helping them if they are intelligent enough to understand. Karma basically means that your actions carry with them consequences, is not wisdom itself based on karma?Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:28:39 -0500Only when misinterpreted. Excerpted from the writings of Bhakti Ananda Goswami:The doctrine of reincarnation or karma should never be used perversely to modify culpability or excuse sins and crimes and thus subvert dharma. Past-life ‘karma' doehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29174159/Does_the_Karma_theory_make_people_insensitive_to_suffering?post_id=520746643#520746643Only when misinterpreted. Excerpted from the writings of Bhakti Ananda Goswami:The doctrine of reincarnation or karma should never be used perversely to modify culpability or excuse sins and crimes and thus subvert dharma. Past-life ‘karma' doeTue, 12 Jun 2012 13:14:00 -0500