New Posts For Thread: Realism v. Nominalism (& Alternatives) in Christianityhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_ChristianityPer a certain...gentleman's (a real gentleman's) (beautifully, btw, humble) request... (yet, of course, anyone can and should feel free to chime in.)Let us begin and with this:If a Christian isn't a metaphysical realist what do they say, exactly,[a] You certainly did. [b] And even if you don't, so what?[MdS]... and, anyway, and once again, the lady's "judgment" is reduced to a gratuitous (and personal) comment ...No, it isn't. Your argument has enormous holes a Mack truck can be driven throhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520602453#520602453[a] You certainly did. [b] And even if you don't, so what?[MdS]... and, anyway, and once again, the lady's "judgment" is reduced to a gratuitous (and personal) comment ...No, it isn't. Your argument has enormous holes a Mack truck can be driven throFri, 08 Jun 2012 14:05:19 -0500You certainly did. And even if you don't, so what?No, it isn't. Your argument has enormous holes a Mack truck can be driven through--assuming a Mack truck can be "driven" through air.Is the mind a noumenon or phenomenon?I don't need any "basics" (lhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520586335#520586335You certainly did. And even if you don't, so what?No, it isn't. Your argument has enormous holes a Mack truck can be driven through--assuming a Mack truck can be "driven" through air.Is the mind a noumenon or phenomenon?I don't need any "basics" (lFri, 08 Jun 2012 07:29:04 -0500amcolphNo, I think you are right, in general. Personally, however, I view the Bible as a much more human book--with the ultimate nihil obstat which we take on faith.[/quote]Of course "we —ultimately— take it on faith" ... the point is, dhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520541881#520541881amcolphNo, I think you are right, in general. Personally, however, I view the Bible as a much more human book--with the ultimate nihil obstat which we take on faith.[/quote]Of course "we —ultimately— take it on faith" ... the point is, dThu, 07 Jun 2012 03:05:04 -0500You told me to sit back and enjoy it.I told you I was and would be judging performance.You asked for that judgment, you got it.[/quote]LOL! More projection! I most certainly did NOT "ask for ... judgment" ...... and, anyway, and once again, the lady'http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520517803#520517803You told me to sit back and enjoy it.I told you I was and would be judging performance.You asked for that judgment, you got it.[/quote]LOL! More projection! I most certainly did NOT "ask for ... judgment" ...... and, anyway, and once again, the lady'Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:26:06 -0500No, I think you are right, in general. Personally, however, I view the Bible as a much more human book--with the ultimate nihil obstat which we take on faith. And so it may be with the mental faculties we are discussing--that other creatures share thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520515819#520515819No, I think you are right, in general. Personally, however, I view the Bible as a much more human book--with the ultimate nihil obstat which we take on faith. And so it may be with the mental faculties we are discussing--that other creatures share tWed, 06 Jun 2012 07:29:24 -0500How would you tell if they weren't?[/quote]Perhaps I am wrong in assuming that it is the same for "Catholic Anglicans" (is that the expression?) but I have always assumed that for Christians inspiration is NOT some generic "intuition of deeper truthshttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520505537#520505537How would you tell if they weren't?[/quote]Perhaps I am wrong in assuming that it is the same for "Catholic Anglicans" (is that the expression?) but I have always assumed that for Christians inspiration is NOT some generic "intuition of deeper truthsTue, 05 Jun 2012 20:15:09 -0500Not your kind, no.For the rest of us, it's just a plain old everyday boring occurrence of affirming the consequent.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520490861#520490861Not your kind, no.For the rest of us, it's just a plain old everyday boring occurrence of affirming the consequent.Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:27:51 -0500You told me to sit back and enjoy it.I told you I was and would be judging performance.You asked for that judgment, you got it.Where's this special faculty untainted by the mind?Please describe it and how you know of it, in addition to how it's untaihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520490521#520490521You told me to sit back and enjoy it.I told you I was and would be judging performance.You asked for that judgment, you got it.Where's this special faculty untainted by the mind?Please describe it and how you know of it, in addition to how it's untaiTue, 05 Jun 2012 13:17:35 -0500How would you tell if they weren't?We all agree that an adult is not the same as a child. Yet the process of changing from a child to an adult is one of continuous development--without a qualitative leap.As I said before, I don't know that it did.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520490363#520490363How would you tell if they weren't?We all agree that an adult is not the same as a child. Yet the process of changing from a child to an adult is one of continuous development--without a qualitative leap.As I said before, I don't know that it did.Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:12:50 -0500amcolphWhat would be against the "laws of logic" in the Incarnation? BTW, I had already indicated (MdS, #205) that it is disputable (to say the least) that the combination of (total) Omnipotence and of (total) Foreknowledge that the lady attributes thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29097607/Realism_v._Nominalism_(_Alternatives)_in_Christianity?post_id=520489795#520489795amcolphWhat would be against the "laws of logic" in the Incarnation? BTW, I had already indicated (MdS, #205) that it is disputable (to say the least) that the combination of (total) Omnipotence and of (total) Foreknowledge that the lady attributes tTue, 05 Jun 2012 12:58:48 -0500