New Posts For Thread: How does one come to saving knowledge of Christ?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_ChristI actually admire the persistence of Kwinters, Blu and some of the others here concerning pressing Christians to demonstrate the truth and consistency of scripture. But this attitude seems to be saying, if only you can show me from a rational standpoI think we chose to be open to the understanding of God which is of course at best very limted. I don't think spiritual discernment is forced on anyone or denied to anyone.[/quote]1 Cor. 2:14 is the ultimate catch-22.sdphttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519325565#519325565I think we chose to be open to the understanding of God which is of course at best very limted. I don't think spiritual discernment is forced on anyone or denied to anyone.[/quote]1 Cor. 2:14 is the ultimate catch-22.sdpFri, 04 May 2012 12:03:27 -0500I fear I have given the wrong impression, so, let me correct. Bro-in-law was a believer, he was not a liberal Christian. He actually thought he was a true Christian, no doubt. .....Hummm....not sure how to clarify. But he later came to the conclusionhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519325445#519325445I fear I have given the wrong impression, so, let me correct. Bro-in-law was a believer, he was not a liberal Christian. He actually thought he was a true Christian, no doubt. .....Hummm....not sure how to clarify. But he later came to the conclusionFri, 04 May 2012 11:59:31 -0500I think we chose to be open to the understanding of God which is of course at best very limted. I don't think spiritual discernment is forced on anyone or denied to anyone.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519321717#519321717I think we chose to be open to the understanding of God which is of course at best very limted. I don't think spiritual discernment is forced on anyone or denied to anyone.Fri, 04 May 2012 09:57:57 -0500"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." SEE: 1 Corinthians 2:13-15http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519319361#519319361"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." SEE: 1 Corinthians 2:13-15Fri, 04 May 2012 08:49:43 -0500RgurleyGoodness! That's the biggest turn-off of a sales pitch I've seen for years!http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519317531#519317531RgurleyGoodness! That's the biggest turn-off of a sales pitch I've seen for years!Fri, 04 May 2012 07:53:26 -0500How does one come to saving knowledge of Christ?akaHow does an UNBELIEVER become a SAVED spiritual BELIEVER in Jesus the Christ, The God-Man?Definitions:"belief" ~= spirit-led "faith"...not just head knowledgeGod the Holy Spirit inspired "belief" = Shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519316977#519316977How does one come to saving knowledge of Christ?akaHow does an UNBELIEVER become a SAVED spiritual BELIEVER in Jesus the Christ, The God-Man?Definitions:"belief" ~= spirit-led "faith"...not just head knowledgeGod the Holy Spirit inspired "belief" = SFri, 04 May 2012 07:29:00 -0500Well I am refreshed to hear that in some pockets somewhere in TEC there is a semblance of something approaching orthodoxy... :PYes, but there are plenty of Dispensationalists throughout Christianity--even in Catholicism. In fact, I don't think it ishttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519316939#519316939Well I am refreshed to hear that in some pockets somewhere in TEC there is a semblance of something approaching orthodoxy... :PYes, but there are plenty of Dispensationalists throughout Christianity--even in Catholicism. In fact, I don't think it isFri, 04 May 2012 07:26:58 -0500Which would hardly embarass even an Episcopalian like me. Not Southern Baptists generally, I think, but you might be interested in the following article which I came across the other day:www.founders.org/journal/fj09/article1.h...http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519292837#519292837Which would hardly embarass even an Episcopalian like me. Not Southern Baptists generally, I think, but you might be interested in the following article which I came across the other day:www.founders.org/journal/fj09/article1.h...Thu, 03 May 2012 12:34:58 -0500I'm not Southern Baptist but would consider myself honored to be invited as a member and to worship among "the second largest Christian body in the United States, after the Catholic Church", one of only 10 NGO's permitted immediately by FEMA on the shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519283539#519283539I'm not Southern Baptist but would consider myself honored to be invited as a member and to worship among "the second largest Christian body in the United States, after the Catholic Church", one of only 10 NGO's permitted immediately by FEMA on the sThu, 03 May 2012 08:06:39 -0500I think spiritually alive is spiritually perfect. The ability to sin is not sin. God has the ability to sin, but can be trusted to not use it. You might have a point however in that spiritually perfect may only refer to someone who has gone throuhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29087069/How_does_one_come_to_saving_knowledge_of_Christ?post_id=519283327#519283327I think spiritually alive is spiritually perfect. The ability to sin is not sin. God has the ability to sin, but can be trusted to not use it. You might have a point however in that spiritually perfect may only refer to someone who has gone throuThu, 03 May 2012 07:58:37 -0500