New Posts For Thread: Secular Humanism just a coward's claim? Is it all talk-do they actually believe it when it matters?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_mattersThis thread is based on an ongoing idea of impossible thinking, that I continue to see make sense to many atheists on this board, to be specific, two ideas they use at separate times for different reasons-but the two together are contradictory.1/ "AThe question makes little sense in light of my long OP and my compacted version to Blu. There is no indication anywhere that I make any argument of any sort that adhering to myths is superior to claiming "secular humanism". I never say "secular humhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519051509#519051509The question makes little sense in light of my long OP and my compacted version to Blu. There is no indication anywhere that I make any argument of any sort that adhering to myths is superior to claiming "secular humanism". I never say "secular humThu, 26 Apr 2012 13:08:52 -0500The question makes little sense in light of my long OP and my compacted version to Blu. There is no indication anywhere that I make any argument of any sort that adhering to myths is superior to claiming "secular humanism". I never say "secular humhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519047789#519047789The question makes little sense in light of my long OP and my compacted version to Blu. There is no indication anywhere that I make any argument of any sort that adhering to myths is superior to claiming "secular humanism". I never say "secular humThu, 26 Apr 2012 11:17:57 -0500That oversimplifies the issue. Intent is the issue in all behavior, it is the measure of virtue. So, it's not a firm rule, no. Further, note the thread is posed as a question, based on an observed theme. There is no question to me that some atheihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519047585#519047585That oversimplifies the issue. Intent is the issue in all behavior, it is the measure of virtue. So, it's not a firm rule, no. Further, note the thread is posed as a question, based on an observed theme. There is no question to me that some atheiThu, 26 Apr 2012 11:12:25 -0500I do not necessarily accept your principles or principles as the rest of the world calls them. Some are useful, some are dogma. You may of course rant about your principles. But the principles violated in the OP are not worth a crocodile tear fromhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519047365#519047365I do not necessarily accept your principles or principles as the rest of the world calls them. Some are useful, some are dogma. You may of course rant about your principles. But the principles violated in the OP are not worth a crocodile tear fromThu, 26 Apr 2012 11:05:55 -0500To whom is this post directed?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519047333#519047333To whom is this post directed?Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:04:38 -0500In other words, calling yourself a secular humanist is cowardly, as opposed to coming straight out as an atheist?Why? Why seek to so rigidly define yourself anyways? Aren't we all unique? Can I describe Bob_the_Lunatic with one word, atheist?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519045969#519045969In other words, calling yourself a secular humanist is cowardly, as opposed to coming straight out as an atheist?Why? Why seek to so rigidly define yourself anyways? Aren't we all unique? Can I describe Bob_the_Lunatic with one word, atheist?Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:28:03 -0500What is so cowardly about secular humanism?Do you prefer blind obedience to mythology posing as fact that is responsible for immeasurable suffering for centuries.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519044327#519044327What is so cowardly about secular humanism?Do you prefer blind obedience to mythology posing as fact that is responsible for immeasurable suffering for centuries.Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:52:11 -0500I do not necessarily accept your principles or principles as the rest of the world calls them. Some are useful, some are dogma. You may of course rant about your principles. But the principles violated in the OP are not worth a crocodile tear fromhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519033907#519033907I do not necessarily accept your principles or principles as the rest of the world calls them. Some are useful, some are dogma. You may of course rant about your principles. But the principles violated in the OP are not worth a crocodile tear fromThu, 26 Apr 2012 01:06:13 -0500You may call me a fraud if you like. Your opinion has no affect on my principles. One of my core principles is radical respect for all people until they prove by their actions that the respect is undeserved. It is not an atheist principle, in facthttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519033569#519033569You may call me a fraud if you like. Your opinion has no affect on my principles. One of my core principles is radical respect for all people until they prove by their actions that the respect is undeserved. It is not an atheist principle, in factThu, 26 Apr 2012 00:22:57 -0500" one of which has cost me two promising careers, " I regret, JC, that you share with me that distinction. I had hoped that I was unique.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29080861/Secular_Humanism_just_a_cowards_claim_Is_it_all_talk-do_they_actually_believe_it_when_it_matters?post_id=519032237#519032237" one of which has cost me two promising careers, " I regret, JC, that you share with me that distinction. I had hoped that I was unique.Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:27:35 -0500