New Posts For Thread: The Koranic View of the Torahhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_TorahSorry to intrude -- just a simple question. Is there a summarizable view of the Koranic (or Muslim, if it is different) opinion on the veracity and accuracy of the text of the written Tanach (the 5 books of Moses, the Prophets and the Writings) as itSalaam dear Abdullah,There is no scholarly consensus, nor has there ever been, on the matter of whether or not "righteous" Christians and Jews enter paradise. The key verses that have been interpreted differently by reputed scholars for some fourteehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519883923#519883923Salaam dear Abdullah,There is no scholarly consensus, nor has there ever been, on the matter of whether or not "righteous" Christians and Jews enter paradise. The key verses that have been interpreted differently by reputed scholars for some fourteeSun, 20 May 2012 10:15:54 -0500Your exegesis has virtually nothing to do with the verse you cited. There's no mention of the Torah in the verse. If you think that's the obvious reference, please demonstrate using the Qur'án, not secondary sources or subjective opinion.In fahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519883043#519883043Your exegesis has virtually nothing to do with the verse you cited. There's no mention of the Torah in the verse. If you think that's the obvious reference, please demonstrate using the Qur'án, not secondary sources or subjective opinion.In faSun, 20 May 2012 09:45:54 -0500Salaam, br. Ibn,I just realised that you have been using M. Assad's English Translation of the Al-Quran. In his translation, M. Assad had put Hebrew meanings into ther Arabic root word NFS used in the two verses - 3: 185 and 21 : 35. In the Al-Qurahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519705981#519705981Salaam, br. Ibn,I just realised that you have been using M. Assad's English Translation of the Al-Quran. In his translation, M. Assad had put Hebrew meanings into ther Arabic root word NFS used in the two verses - 3: 185 and 21 : 35. In the Al-QuraTue, 15 May 2012 09:54:38 -0500Both Az-Zumar 39 : 6 mention of a single person, and, GoN 94 : 2 mention of Father-Mother points out to the Light of our single SELF. Conceptually, spiritually, it is no different from much of those described in various school of pre-Abrahamic Hihttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519692855#519692855Both Az-Zumar 39 : 6 mention of a single person, and, GoN 94 : 2 mention of Father-Mother points out to the Light of our single SELF. Conceptually, spiritually, it is no different from much of those described in various school of pre-Abrahamic HiMon, 14 May 2012 20:07:01 -0500It looks like Jesus was referring to Father (God) and Mother (mother nature).[/quote]Waalaikum salaam wrhmtllh, br. Ibn.It may seem so to a lot of people, in the past as well as in the present time. Jesus was referring to the Light of our Person (Shttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519673647#519673647It looks like Jesus was referring to Father (God) and Mother (mother nature).[/quote]Waalaikum salaam wrhmtllh, br. Ibn.It may seem so to a lot of people, in the past as well as in the present time. Jesus was referring to the Light of our Person (SMon, 14 May 2012 10:10:36 -0500It looks like Jesus was referring to Father (God) and Mother (mother nature).Also, there is mention of only "this life" and "the life to come" rather than any mention of any "previous life" and "the lives to come". Therefore, I don't believe in perpehttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519665003#519665003It looks like Jesus was referring to Father (God) and Mother (mother nature).Also, there is mention of only "this life" and "the life to come" rather than any mention of any "previous life" and "the lives to come". Therefore, I don't believe in perpeMon, 14 May 2012 05:32:11 -0500Not the soul of Abraham. Nor was the soul of his father. Their spirit/mind would be punished. The punishements would be reincarnate in an environment where they would be forced to, or, guided by those souls that ALLAHswt have chosen to inherit thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519637467#519637467Not the soul of Abraham. Nor was the soul of his father. Their spirit/mind would be punished. The punishements would be reincarnate in an environment where they would be forced to, or, guided by those souls that ALLAHswt have chosen to inherit tSun, 13 May 2012 09:58:14 -0500Salaam, br. Ibn.Those verses are referring to the soul aspect of the triune constaitution of our person/beingness (SELF = Soul + Inherited spirit/mind + inherited body).In 53 : 38 the bearer of burden is the soul, the burden are both the inherited sphttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519620571#519620571Salaam, br. Ibn.Those verses are referring to the soul aspect of the triune constaitution of our person/beingness (SELF = Soul + Inherited spirit/mind + inherited body).In 53 : 38 the bearer of burden is the soul, the burden are both the inherited spSat, 12 May 2012 17:11:09 -0500Salaam, br. Ibn.Those verses are referring to the soul aspect of the triune constaitution of our person/beingness (SELF = Soul + Inherited spirit/mind + inherited body).In 53 : 38 the bearer of burden is the soul, the burden are both the inherited sphttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519606089#519606089Salaam, br. Ibn.Those verses are referring to the soul aspect of the triune constaitution of our person/beingness (SELF = Soul + Inherited spirit/mind + inherited body).In 53 : 38 the bearer of burden is the soul, the burden are both the inherited spSat, 12 May 2012 10:19:12 -0500It's truly amazing the length God had to go (from human point of view) to guide Bani Israel, the fourth generation of Abraham! The verse number 5 is not literal as the attribute "jealous" is only human attribute. God is also never unjust. Punishing thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29068475/The_Koranic_View_of_the_Torah?post_id=519598097#519598097It's truly amazing the length God had to go (from human point of view) to guide Bani Israel, the fourth generation of Abraham! The verse number 5 is not literal as the attribute "jealous" is only human attribute. God is also never unjust. Punishing tSat, 12 May 2012 05:43:21 -0500