New Posts For Thread: When did Paul convert?http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convertIn Did Jesus Exist, Ehrman dates the conversion of Paul to the early 30s in part of his refutation of the allegation that Jesus was purely a mythical invention.What have other sources cited as the date of Paul's conversion?en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul...www.vexen.co.uk/religion/paul.htmlcarm.org/non-biblical-accounts-new-testa...Here's some...http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518658295#518658295en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul...www.vexen.co.uk/religion/paul.htmlcarm.org/non-biblical-accounts-new-testa...Here's some...Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:58:46 -0500Saul did NOT "'convert' to Christianity" ... He was a "Messianic 'Jew'" ... (see, e.g., Romans 9-11) ...We have two biblical sources that may tell us of Paul's conversion to Christianity - Paul's own account in his epistles, and Acts of the Apostleshttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518657663#518657663Saul did NOT "'convert' to Christianity" ... He was a "Messianic 'Jew'" ... (see, e.g., Romans 9-11) ...We have two biblical sources that may tell us of Paul's conversion to Christianity - Paul's own account in his epistles, and Acts of the ApostlesSun, 15 Apr 2012 17:32:30 -0500We have two biblical sources that may tell us of Paul's conversion to Christianity - Paul's own account in his epistles, and Acts of the Apostles, written at least 60 years after the event. The two accounts are overall quite contradictory, although Ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518654879#518654879We have two biblical sources that may tell us of Paul's conversion to Christianity - Paul's own account in his epistles, and Acts of the Apostles, written at least 60 years after the event. The two accounts are overall quite contradictory, although ASun, 15 Apr 2012 16:06:59 -0500But lots was said. Clearly lots was being said because the Jewish Temple authorities started to act, hence Paul's initial contact with the Jesus movement before his own conversion.http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518654547#518654547But lots was said. Clearly lots was being said because the Jewish Temple authorities started to act, hence Paul's initial contact with the Jesus movement before his own conversion.Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:58:02 -0500KW'It is hard to explain this confluence apart from the view that Jesus certainly existed.'Except that from our point of view no one says anything about Jesus until Paul ~50 CE.It's a substantial pity that Ehrman gives no details of the additional nuhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518630677#518630677KW'It is hard to explain this confluence apart from the view that Jesus certainly existed.'Except that from our point of view no one says anything about Jesus until Paul ~50 CE.It's a substantial pity that Ehrman gives no details of the additional nuSun, 15 Apr 2012 05:42:51 -0500Ehrman's dating process:'To give us a rock solid start, we can say that Paul must have converted sometime after the death of Jesus around 30 CE and sometime before 40 CE. The latter date is based on the fact that in 2 Cor 11:32 Paul indicates that Khttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518630357#518630357Ehrman's dating process:'To give us a rock solid start, we can say that Paul must have converted sometime after the death of Jesus around 30 CE and sometime before 40 CE. The latter date is based on the fact that in 2 Cor 11:32 Paul indicates that KSun, 15 Apr 2012 05:24:00 -0500?Where do you get this? Certainly not from Scripture (confer Acts 21-25, etc.)[/quote]there is no persecution of Christians in Jerusalem in Acts 21-25 (just an issue with Paul personally)http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518627765#518627765?Where do you get this? Certainly not from Scripture (confer Acts 21-25, etc.)[/quote]there is no persecution of Christians in Jerusalem in Acts 21-25 (just an issue with Paul personally)Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:16:06 -0500Using extra-Biblical sources and absolute dating (e.g., the reign of Aretas), it had to be pre-40 AD.Layering Scripture in, I agree with others here that it was very early in the nascent church's history (likely within 1 year of the crucifixion.)http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518627245#518627245Using extra-Biblical sources and absolute dating (e.g., the reign of Aretas), it had to be pre-40 AD.Layering Scripture in, I agree with others here that it was very early in the nascent church's history (likely within 1 year of the crucifixion.)Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:26:51 -0500That's easy--in Acts 2, as soon as the day of Pentecost, we read:5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518627167#518627167That's easy--in Acts 2, as soon as the day of Pentecost, we read:5 Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. 6 And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hSun, 15 Apr 2012 00:18:40 -0500?Where do you get this? Certainly not from Scripture (confer Acts 21-25, etc.)http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29060001/When_did_Paul_convert?post_id=518627141#518627141?Where do you get this? Certainly not from Scripture (confer Acts 21-25, etc.)Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:14:22 -0500