New Posts For Thread: ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUSThttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUSTANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUSTAccording to Numbers 13 and 14, when the Israelites had arrived at the borders of Canaan, Moses sent a platoon of twelve men to reconnoiter the land before taking possession of it. The report fed back by ten of the spies,BS"DAll good and I agree. Just add 2 more facts for a more complete representation of the notion IMHO:1. "I firmly believe in the coming of the Messiah; and although He may tarry, I daily hope for His coming." - 12th Article of RaMBaM's 13 Articlhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518374655#518374655BS"DAll good and I agree. Just add 2 more facts for a more complete representation of the notion IMHO:1. "I firmly believe in the coming of the Messiah; and although He may tarry, I daily hope for His coming." - 12th Article of RaMBaM's 13 ArticlSat, 07 Apr 2012 22:31:36 -0500"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianichttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518332159#518332159"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianicFri, 06 Apr 2012 14:25:31 -0500BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518330587#518330587BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouFri, 06 Apr 2012 13:36:36 -0500BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518330535#518330535BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouFri, 06 Apr 2012 13:34:58 -0500"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianichttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518330389#518330389"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianicFri, 06 Apr 2012 13:29:06 -0500BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518313765#518313765BS"DYes we do. It is in our prayers. Every generation has an opportunity to merit Moshiach. It is the people or the office that is eternal, not the person. Every generation can potentially have a different person. I would be happy with one in ouThu, 05 Apr 2012 23:53:58 -0500"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianichttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518303613#518303613"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianicThu, 05 Apr 2012 15:49:10 -0500IMHO, the real Jewish Messiah is depicted by the Jewish People themselves. If the way of the Scriptures is not the one of your preference on this issue, Logic is also another option. Logic dictates that the individual is born, lives his span of life,http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518295207#518295207IMHO, the real Jewish Messiah is depicted by the Jewish People themselves. If the way of the Scriptures is not the one of your preference on this issue, Logic is also another option. Logic dictates that the individual is born, lives his span of life,Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:51:57 -0500"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianichttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518294867#518294867"Thus says the Lord to His anointed, Cyrus..." If Cyrus was not God's anointed, as Isaiah claimed in a vision of his, Isaiah was either a false prophet or he was out of his mind. Since Cyrus was not literally anointed, Herzl was our modern messianicThu, 05 Apr 2012 11:41:11 -0500I don't see it. Even for a sabra who is fervently religious. Even for a bnai akivnik. To create some category of "messianic figure" and say that herzl was (and then who wasn't? Ben Gurion? Meir? Dayan? Goldsmid? Nordau? Gaster? Rothschild?) especiallhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/29009927/ANOTHER_VIEW_OF_THE_HOLOCAUST?post_id=518286343#518286343I don't see it. Even for a sabra who is fervently religious. Even for a bnai akivnik. To create some category of "messianic figure" and say that herzl was (and then who wasn't? Ben Gurion? Meir? Dayan? Goldsmid? Nordau? Gaster? Rothschild?) especiallThu, 05 Apr 2012 07:12:24 -0500