New Posts For Thread: President Obama used women to initiate a war against the Catholic Church and Republicans – why are Chttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_CC'mon ladies, wake up and stop being used and played for political points.It's infuriating to me as a woman that this entire controversy is being played as a "war on women" and that this asinine contraceptive mandate is for the sake of "women's healtLulu,Dear gilg...when did I say I was Catholic? Or that I follow anyones words even Paul... as you seem to believe is where I get my info from? LOL! You got me there, I made an assumption and if it was wrong, no offense intended. As for Charity.PLEAShttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517452527#517452527Lulu,Dear gilg...when did I say I was Catholic? Or that I follow anyones words even Paul... as you seem to believe is where I get my info from? LOL! You got me there, I made an assumption and if it was wrong, no offense intended. As for Charity.PLEASMon, 12 Mar 2012 16:37:19 -0500If this is true, then the free market will work itself out. Companies & non-profits "smart" enough to provide artificial contraceptive coverage will have a definitive advantage over those who lack the foresight to do so, hence ending up paying for ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517446761#517446761If this is true, then the free market will work itself out. Companies & non-profits "smart" enough to provide artificial contraceptive coverage will have a definitive advantage over those who lack the foresight to do so, hence ending up paying for aMon, 12 Mar 2012 14:18:57 -0500In some places there are no other hospitals besides the Catholic hospital. Or an ambulance might take me there because it's closest. If you think you always get to choose what hospital you end up in, think again.I do not agree that a hospital shouldhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517446459#517446459In some places there are no other hospitals besides the Catholic hospital. Or an ambulance might take me there because it's closest. If you think you always get to choose what hospital you end up in, think again.I do not agree that a hospital shouldMon, 12 Mar 2012 14:12:30 -0500If this is true, then the free market will work itself out. Companies & non-profits "smart" enough to provide artificial contraceptive coverage will have a definitive advantage over those who lack the foresight to do so, hence ending up paying for ahttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517445625#517445625If this is true, then the free market will work itself out. Companies & non-profits "smart" enough to provide artificial contraceptive coverage will have a definitive advantage over those who lack the foresight to do so, hence ending up paying for aMon, 12 Mar 2012 13:50:13 -0500Who would force you to go to a Catholic hospital? You can go there, but they also have the right..or should have the right, to only supply you with everything that doesnt go against their beliefs. Maybe you might see it from a Jewish perspective...Dohttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517445497#517445497Who would force you to go to a Catholic hospital? You can go there, but they also have the right..or should have the right, to only supply you with everything that doesnt go against their beliefs. Maybe you might see it from a Jewish perspective...DoMon, 12 Mar 2012 13:46:05 -0500As I understand it, there is no such thing as a free lunch. If an insurance provider allocates "free" coverage to contraceptors, then won't they have to raise rates on ALL clients (including the RCC) to maintain the same profit margin? This seems lhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517443885#517443885As I understand it, there is no such thing as a free lunch. If an insurance provider allocates "free" coverage to contraceptors, then won't they have to raise rates on ALL clients (including the RCC) to maintain the same profit margin? This seems lMon, 12 Mar 2012 13:02:36 -0500The Catholic Church most certainly CAN force me to obey its laws if I go to one of its hospitals in need of an abortion or a morning after pill. You betcha! And they would like to force you to obey its laws as well, when it comes to decisions you mighttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517443689#517443689The Catholic Church most certainly CAN force me to obey its laws if I go to one of its hospitals in need of an abortion or a morning after pill. You betcha! And they would like to force you to obey its laws as well, when it comes to decisions you migMon, 12 Mar 2012 12:55:30 -0500You see, mewsjukie..you wish for me to debate you to feed your need..to hate who you have already decided to hate..no matter what what any reason would be suggested to you. You are the person who is ill informed. Are you a member of any Church? Can thttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517443307#517443307You see, mewsjukie..you wish for me to debate you to feed your need..to hate who you have already decided to hate..no matter what what any reason would be suggested to you. You are the person who is ill informed. Are you a member of any Church? Can tMon, 12 Mar 2012 12:40:49 -0500As I understand it, there is no such thing as a free lunch. If an insurance provider allocates "free" coverage to contraceptors, then won't they have to raise rates on ALL clients (including the RCC) to maintain the same profit margin? This seems lhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517443153#517443153As I understand it, there is no such thing as a free lunch. If an insurance provider allocates "free" coverage to contraceptors, then won't they have to raise rates on ALL clients (including the RCC) to maintain the same profit margin? This seems lMon, 12 Mar 2012 12:35:21 -0500It's a bit hard to follow what you've written here, but let me address a couple of your points.First I refer to your statement that the church's position has nothing to do with free choice of women. You are incorrect, or perhaps just misinformed abouhttp://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/28981021/President_Obama_used_women_to_initiate_a_war_against_the_Catholic_Church_and_Republicans_–_why_are_C?post_id=517442709#517442709It's a bit hard to follow what you've written here, but let me address a couple of your points.First I refer to your statement that the church's position has nothing to do with free choice of women. You are incorrect, or perhaps just misinformed abouMon, 12 Mar 2012 12:21:35 -0500