WHAT IS REBELLION AGAINST GOD? Current mood:DESIRING TO BE BETTER! Category: Religion and Philosophy MORNING MANNA - JULY 18, 2009 - WHAT IS REBELLION AGAINST GOD? Proverbs 17:11 (AMP) 11 An evil man seeks only rebellion; therefore a stern and pitiless messenger shall be sent against him. As I thought about Proverbs 17:11, I had to first ask myself, "What is an evil man (person)? I didn't have to look far when I looked up the original word translated, "evil." The Vine's dictionary categorizes this as, "sin." Oh my, God's word says, we have all sinned and come short of the glory of God! Romans 3:23 (NLT) 23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. If we were to persist in this evil pattern, our fate would be spiritual and eternal death. Romans 6:23 (NLT) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. Each of us has a choice this morning to turn from being evil. We can receive the gift of eternal life right now. God offers this gift to evil people! Or, we can choose to go on working to receive wages that may look appealing to us now, but they are really death, disguised cleverly by the devil, to lure us into leading lives of rebellion. An evil person seeks only rebellion. That means this sort of person searches out rebellion by any method possible. They are eager to find it. Again, I was slightly perplexed by what rebellion really is, as described in Proverbs 17:11. I was struck by the fact that the original meaning has to do with, "bitterness." Sometimes, our past injuries and failures can cause us to be bitter. That's why it's better to let God take those things and make us better. If we have received that gift of eternal life, we know that His Word is true when it tells us that all things work together for the good. Romans 8:28 (NLT) 28 And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them. Just the remembrance of this one scripture will help us to keep from being bitter about things that have caused us pain or are, even now, bringing discomfort in our lives. When we have surrendered our lives to the Lord, He uses the things we perceive as good and the things we perceive as bad to do something very special in and for us. He helps us to become more and more like Jesus! Romans 8:29-30 (NLT) 29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory. Stopping for a moment in this thought process, I am reminded that Jesus had plenty of opportunity to be bitter. He had plenty of pain in His life. He had more than enough conflict to make Him bitter. But He became better. Even He had to learn obedience to His Father through suffering! Hebrews 5:8 (AM) 8 Although He was a Son, He learned [active, special] obedience through what He suffered It may well be that you are suffering this morning. You may feel as though you have nothing to live for. You may be suffering persecution on your job or in school. Worse yet, you may be suffering persecution or be misunderstood at home. Jesus did not say that we would be sheltered from every storm. He even said that there would be storms! John 16:33 (AMP) 33 I have told you these things, so that in Me you may have [perfect] peace and confidence. In the world you have tribulation and trials and distress and frustration; but be of good cheer [take courage; be confident, certain, undaunted]! For I have overcome the world. [I have deprived it of power to harm you and have conquered it for you.] In the very same breath that Jesus told us of the troubles we would face, He said, "Be of good cheer...." In other words, put on a happy face! Replace those negative thoughts with positive thoughts from scripture. The first thing we might want to remember is that Jesus learned obedience through what He suffered. You and I need to do just like Jesus did! Learn obedience from those difficult times in life. Secondly, Jesus did it perfectly and, although you and I will fail sometimes in our humanity, He has overcome for us already! A rebel will forget these things and become bitter, always seeking, at any cost, to do evil. What choice will we make when we are in the midst of our trials? It's our choice. We can serve the devil and become bitter, bringing death and destruction upon ourselves. Or, we can make the choice to serve God, becoming better and receive abundant life here and forever. In essence, becoming bitter, and following its destructive course, is rebellion against God. What is it going to be for you and me? Bitter and rebellious or better and obedient?
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16 To the woman He said, I will greatly multiply your grief and your suffering in pregnancy and the pangs of childbearing; with spasms of distress you will bring forth children. Yet your desire and craving will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.
Within families today, there are lots of problems with children. If you don't believe me, take a look at the nightly news and see what the children of today are doing! Many have not been taught of the Lord. Many have and, like Eve, they think the devil's way is going to be better. Parenting skills seem to be at an all-time low with many children having to be left alone or with strangers while both parents work to make a living. There are some parents who have done everything they could to see that their children would have a stable future and walk with the Lord. Yet, these children, in spite of all they have been given, choose the path that seems right in their own eyes but fail to see that it leads to destruction. Proverbs 16:25 (NLT) 25 There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death. Oh the pain of that mother who can see her child going in the wrong direction; but the child fails or refuses to hear her warnings! Oh, the pain of the parent who has given the truth to their child, but that child is living a lie. The Apostle Paul said the following about his spiritual children. We can tap into the depth of his feeling for both our spiritual and biological children. Galatians 4:19-20 (NIV) 19 My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you, 20 how I wish I could be with you now and change my tone, because I am perplexed about you! It could be that you are perplexed about one or more of your children this morning, just as Paul was about his spiritual children. Are you feeling those pains of childbirth all over again as you constantly seek the Lord to be formed in your children? Let me say this. Don't give up. It is painful but God has given us His Word to cling to. Psalm 126:5-6 (NLT) 5 Those who plant in tears will harvest with shouts of joy. 6 They weep as they go to plant their seed, but they sing as they return with the harvest. Don't stop bearing the seed of God's Word in love, even through tears of pain and anguish. You will have a harvest! Our God is not willing that any should perish. That includes your children and mine! (2 Peter 3:9) What is the greatest joy that a parent can have? It is to see that their children are walking in the truth. 3 John 1:4 (NIV) 4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth. Jesus said, "I am the truth." (John 14:16) If you, as a parent, are in one of those times of utter joy watching your child walk with the Lord, rejoice and thank God. Enjoy those moments and let your children know that it is a blessing from the Lord. Sing praise to the Lord! However, you may be one of those parents who are suffering some painful birth pangs again. Don't give up! (Galatians 6:9) Bear down in those pains before the throne of God. Keep on praying. Fast before the Lord. Sing praise through your pain and your tears. He is able and willing to deliver your child! (Mark 9:14-29) It doesn't matter how difficult the problem is!
Current mood:TRYING TO REMAIN DILIGENT
Category: Religion and Philosophy
MORNING MANNA - JULY 16, 2009 - DILIGENCE HAS IT'S REWARDS
Proverbs 21:5 (AMP)
5 The thoughts of the [steadily] diligent tend only to plenteousness, but everyone who is impatient and hasty hastens only to want.
The world that you and I live in today is a fast-paced world. The temptation is to grab what you can, when you can. To make impulsive decisions. To try to find get-rich-quick plans so we won't lose out. The trouble with much of that is that it doesn't follow God's plan for His children. The temptation to succumb to impatience and fear is great in the age we live in. However, I am reminded today, as I read Proverbs 21:5, that I must be steadily diligent, even in my thought life. There's a lot of talk about prosperity today, inside and outside of our churches. Do we want prosperity or, as one translation puts it, "plenteousness?" Just as in everything that has to do with life, God gives us the way to plenty. In fact, He is the way! He gives us the wisdom to know that diligent thoughts bring plenty but impatience and hasty decisions do just the opposite. They bring us down.
I'm remembering that, regarding diligence, our first priority should be to diligently seek God and follow His commands. Deuteronomy 6:17-18 (NLT) 17 You must diligently obey the commands of the Lord your God—all the laws and decrees he has given you. 18 Do what is right and good in the Lord’s sight, so all will go well with you. Then you will enter and occupy the good land that the Lord swore to give your ancestors. Instead of concentrating on the things we think we need and focusing on prosperity, our thoughts should diligently be focused on the only One who can prosper us. How wonderful is it that? If we seek that One diligently, He has promised that we will find Him! He said so! Proverbs 8:17 (NRSV) 17 I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me. Diligently loving and seeking God has a sure reward. Not like some of the schemes we have seen in the world today. He promised that we will find Him! He never fails on any of His promises! 2 Samuel 22:31 (NLT) 31 “God’s way is perfect. All the Lord’s promises prove true. He is a shield for all who look to him for protection.
Where is your heart this morning? Is it on that ever increasingly fast merry-go-round of worldly life? Are you wanting to scream, "Stop the world, I want to get off?" If so, it's time to get a hold on your heart again. Proverbs 4:23 (NKJV) 23 Keep your heart with all diligence, For out of it spring the issues of life. One translation of Proverbs 4:23 says we should vigilantly keep our heart. Guard it! It can get carried away with all the bling of this world. But, that is just fake bling! It's like that proverbial villain who offers candy to the little child, luring the innocent victim into the car, only to do harm or even kill them. John 10:10 (AMP) 10 The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance (to the full, till it overflows). Our enemy, the devil, would like to capture our hearts and keep them from being diligent to seek God and to care for those things He has already given us. Where is your heart this morning? Don't accept that piece of candy from the nice looking man! 2 Corinthians 11:14 (TLB) 14 Yet I am not surprised! Satan can change himself into an angel of light, Instead, diligently seek the One who owns everything. Slow and steady wins the race! God will occupy your heart and take care of all your issues in life. Will we be diligent in seeking Him above all else? If so, God has promised to meet our needs. Diligence has its rewards!
Current mood:REMINDED TO BE DILIGENT TO SERVE THE LORD
Category: Religion and Philosophy
MORNING MANNA - JULY 15, 2009 - WE MUST REMAIN DILIGENT!
Joshua 22:5 (KJV)
5 But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.
When are you most likely to slack off and become less diligent? I would venture to say that maybe it's in a time when things are going well and you have few challenges. In the case of the Israelites, they had just conquered the promised land. God had given them what He had promised. Joshua 21:43-45 (NIV) 43 So the Lord gave Israel all the land he had sworn to give their forefathers, and they took possession of it and settled there. 44 The Lord gave them rest on every side, just as he had sworn to their forefathers. Not one of their enemies withstood them; the Lord handed all their enemies over to them. 45 Not one of all the Lord's good promises to the house of Israel failed; every one was fulfilled. All twelve tribes had worked together to secure all of the promised land. Two and a half tribes had their land on the opposite side of the Jordan. It was time for them to be allowed to go back and settle down with their families. When we get "settled in" to our homes and feel comfortable in our families, we can begin to ignore the Head of our family. God gave the tribes that were going to their homes a charge to keep. It was a reminder that they should remain diligent to keep their eyes on Him and not on all the wonderful things He had given them.
Although we have many challenges today, we also have many blessings. Our focus should be on neither, but on the God who can bring us through the challenges and who has blessed us in spite of the challenges! I must confess that I can get mighty comfortable with my blessings and painfully distracted by my challenges. Maybe you can relate to that too. What does God want us to do in each case. He wants us to be careful. To be diligent. To follow His commands. I am just recalling that the first and greatest commandment, according to Jesus is to love God with all of our being. Matthew 22:37-38 (NIV) 37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. Are we diligent to love the Lord with all of our heart, soul and mind? Being prone to distraction as I am, I'm still taking lessons in diligence!
This group of people that were being sent back to their homes on the other side of Jordan were going with great riches. Joshua 22:8 (NIV) 8 saying, "Return to your homes with your great wealth--with large herds of livestock, with silver, gold, bronze and iron, and a great quantity of clothing--and divide with your brothers the plunder from your enemies." The Lord had given them victory over all of their enemies. We have those times in our lives when the Lord delivers us from enemies and makes provision when we thought there was no way. At those times, and at all other times, we should be diligent to keep our hearts on the Giver and not all the gifts! Each morning, it's a good idea to check our hearts to see if we are being diligent to keep His commandments, to cling and unite with Him, and to serve Him with all our hearts - even our very lives! Are we more concerned about the challenges of the day? Or, about enjoying the gifts we may have at the moment? Are we concerned about those things we have to do or want to do about these things. Of course, there is a time to be diligent about taking care of and preserving those things the Lord has given us. But the first order of diligence should be to worship the Lord, seeking Him diligently with all of our hearts and serving Him enthusiastically! Thank you Lord for this reminder. I need you to help me!
Current mood:LOOKING TO THE INVISIBLE
Category: Religion and Philosophy
MORNING MANNA - JULY 14, 2009 - THE INVISIBLE WILL ALWAYS BECOME VISIBLE
2 Corinthians 4:18 (AMP)
18 Since we consider and look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are visible are temporal (brief and fleeting), but the things that are invisible are deathless and everlasting.
I read the following quote this morning. The invisible part of your life will always impact the visible. ~Lt. Gen. Hal Moore Immediately, several thoughts came to mind. Sorting through those thoughts, I remembered that God is invisible to us right now, except by faith. Yet, if we have the Lord in our lives, His impact is always felt and seen by others. God has not left us without a clue as to His existence. Romans 1:20 (NIV) 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. Those who say that God doesn't exist are without excuse. In fact, this invisible God calls them fools! Psalm 53:1 (AMP) 1 To the Chief Musician; in a mournful strain. A skillful song, or didactic or reflective poem of David. THE [empty-headed] fool has said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt and evil are they, and doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good. Empty-headed, if you will. Corrupt and evil. Now, there's a good example of the invisible becoming visible! A fool, who is empty-headed, will have a life that shows it! Corruption and evil will be made visible, as we are seeing in the headlines today.
God is invisible to us right now, but He didn't leave us without hope, walking in blind faith. He sent His Son to show us all of His invisible qualities. Colossians 1:15 (NIV) 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Mankind is without excuse if He does not believe in God, who is invisible to us right now because we can look at the intricacy of His creation and know that the invisible God is real. Look at the beauty of a flower in bloom. Feel the mighty power of a hurricane, tornado, or earthquake! See the miraculous softness of a newborn baby. Not only do we have creation to show us that the invisible exists, but we also have the Word of God that tells us that His Son, Jesus Christ, made all these wondrous things and He holds them all together. Colossians 1:16-17 (NIV) 16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. The next time you feel that God is far away just because you can't see Him with your natural eyes at the moment, use those natural eyes to look at His creation and to look into His Word. By faith, you will be renewed in your thinking. He will encourage you with all the surprises you find in both places! By faith, we, like Moses, can endure trials and times of discomfort because we walk by faith instead of sight. Hebrews 11:27 (NIV) 27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king's anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. Pharaoh was a very visible threat to Moses, but Moses did not quit because he saw, by faith, His invisible Lord! We can do that too!
You and I may get discouraged and be tempted to give up when we face certain extremely difficult situations in life. That is exactly what our enemy wants us to do. He wants us to keep our eyes only on what we can see in the natural. God's plan is for us not to lose heart. 2 Corinthians 4:16 (NIV) 16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. What we see on the outside that may be wasting away with age, other setbacks or disease is only serving to reveal the invisible that is on the inside. If we do not lose heart, we will be renewed day by day from the inside. We never know what God can do when He works from the inside out! (Ephesians 3:20) But, this we do know. He is able to reverse any situation. He is able to reveal any and all of His invisible qualities and make them visible in our lives. He is our healer. He is our provider. He is our refuge. Whether or not we see those things we want to see with our natural eyes, there is something to be revealed in the future, for sure. We may go through some troubles here on earth, but there is an eternal glory awaiting us that will make these things seem like nothing. 2 Corinthians 2:17 (NIV) 17 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. Because we have faith that the invisible will be made visible, we can lift our eyes to a higher level than what we're looking at this present moment. We can look past the health problems, the relationship problems, the financial problems, and the grief we may be feeling. We can fix our eyes, by faith, on those things we cannot yet see in the natural. The things we're looking at today will pass sooner or later. Everything we see with our natural eyes is temporary. Those things which we cannot yet see, except by faith, are the eternal things. The things that will last forever. 2 Corinthians 4:18 (NIV) 18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. Are your eyes fixed on the very visible, and threatening, "Pharaoh's" in your life. Or, are your eyes fixed on the things that are unseen today because you know, by faith, that you will see them?
Current mood:ENJOYING THE SEASON
Category: Religion and Philosophy
MORNING MANNA - JULY 13, 2009 - WHAT SEASON ARE YOU IN?
Ecclesiastes 3:1 (NIV)
1 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:
I don't know about you, but I place more pressure on myself than anyone else. My desire is to "bloom" all the time. Having said that, I don't bloom enough because I short-circuit myself with added stress. God's Word says there is a time for everything and a season for every activity. What about those seasons? What is your favorite season, and why? My least favorite season is Winter and that probably says something about me.
I recently heard a message where the preacher likened the times of our lives to the four seasons that God brings about on the earth. In the natural, the seasons come and go in order. The "blooms," are usually more profuse in Spring. Obviously, I want Spring-time in my life all the time! But, God says that there is a season for every activity. Since I like Spring, I'll start with that. Spring is a time of new growth. We start seeing color. I like that! New growth is always refreshing and a wonderful time in our lives when we walk in ways and places in which we have never been. God watches over each of the seasons in our lives, just as He watches over the seasons that come and go on the earth. Deuteronomy 11:12 (NLT) 12 a land that the Lord your God cares for. He watches over it through each season of the year!
Spring doesn't last forever. The heat of Summer comes and growing things start to mature. That process is not always comfortable. Have you ever seen those flowers drooping in the heat of summer if they have not been watered properly? Thank God, we have the water of God's Word to keep us growing and maturing. We will definitely have times of heat in our lives where we might feel like we're going to wilt. If we have received Jesus, we have that living water to keep us alive and healthy, bringing us to a new level of spiritual maturity. John 4:14 (NLT) 14 But those who drink the water I give will never be thirsty again. It becomes a fresh, bubbling spring within them, giving them eternal life.” Summer passes quickly into autumn, a time of harvest. If you're not in a time of harvest in your life, this time will come and you will reap the rewards. That season will also pass. Following autumn, and a season of harvest, is a season of Winter. We may feel cold. Life may look dreary. Just as the trees lose their leaves and the plants seemingly die away, we may be stripped of things we don't need in our lives. A time of rest. In that rest, when we are stripped of the unnecessary things in our lives, the Master Gardener is not at rest. He is reviving us from deep within. All of this is brought about by a loving Heavenly Father, who has control over each season and has determined a purpose for each one. If you are in a Winter season, know that the cycle goes on. After Winter comes Spring again! Another season of new growth! Whatever season you may happen to be in this morning, God is doing something special and essential in your life. Whether you are walking in the joy of seeing new growth in your life, in the maturing process, in a harvest time, or in a Winter season of rest, God is watching over you and orchestrating each one with a purpose. When needed you will feel those refreshing showers of blessing that come from the Lord. Ezekiel 34:26 (NLT) 26 I will bless my people and their homes around my holy hill. And in the proper season I will send the showers they need. There will be showers of blessing. What season are you in this morning? Rejoice and be glad for your Father is working in you. Receive from Him the thing He is offering during this particular season. Is it new growth? Is it maturity? Is it a harvest? Is it rest? Each is needed and we serve a loving Father who tends the garden of our lives in and through each season! If we have received Jesus, we know that all of the things that go on during these "seasons of life" are working together for good to make us more like Him! Romans 8:28-29 (NIV) 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. Enjoy the present season, it will pass into the next one at just the right time!
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REAL, TRUE, RIGHT section comes from Steve Nicholes sermon: Worldview #3
Time Changer is a classic worldview movie. This movie portrays a professor who supposedly was living in the 20th century and it takes him into the 21st century to show how what he believed and taught played out in the lives of others. For those who think teaching good morals without the Authority by which they were given are challenged to think again. Obviously, man is unable to step into a time machine to live in the either the past to observe how the world began or to live in the future.
Current mood:HAPPY IN THE PRISON OF HOPE
Category: Religion and Philosophy
MORNING MANNA - JULY 12, 2009 - PRISONERS
Zechariah 9:12 (NIV)
12 Return to your fortress, O prisoners of hope; even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you.
The thought of being a prisoner is very negative. However, the truth is that, unless the Son has set us free, we are all prisoners of Satan. John 8:36 (ASV) 36 If therefore the Son shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Even after Jesus gives us that free gift of salvation, we can struggle with prisons of our own making. Prisons of the past. Perhaps your prison is a prison of depression. Another may experience a prison of addiction to drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex, etc. Even an addiction to entertainment is a prison, whose bars keep us from experiencing the fullness of life that Jesus died to give us. John 10:10 (NLT) 10 The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My purpose is to give them a rich and satisfying life.
Is there anything in our lives that has become a prison, holding us back from the abundant life in Christ? Many of us are in a prison of worry. What about the economy? What about the spread of violence? Is there really global warming? Is the coast of California about ready to fall into the ocean? Are my children going in the wrong direction? Do I have a terminal disease? The list could go on and on. As the list grows, so do the prison bars around us. Jesus specifically ordered us not to be prisoners of worry. Luke 12:25-26 (NRSV) 25 And can any of you by worrying add a single hour to your span of life? 26 If then you are not able to do so small a thing as that, why do you worry about the rest?
Having received Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we are children of God. (Romans 8:16) God tells His children that, because of the covenant He made with us, sealed with blood, He will free us as prisoners left to die in a waterless dungeon. Zechariah 9:11 (NIV) 11 As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. The enemy would just love to throw you and me into a pit where there is no water. He would like us to stay in the dark there and die of thirst. Nevertheless, we serve a God who is stronger than the enemy. Even in the darkest pit of our lives, Jesus is that living water that flows from the fountain that never will run dry. There is no place that the living water of His Word cannot reach us. If we feel like prisoners to any circumstance this morning, we can know that God calls us to that place of safety in Him. He calls us out of the dark, dry pit which has become our prison into the prison of hope. Instead of being prisoners of the enemy's wiles, we can be prisoners of hope. Hope in a God who has promised we will not be ashamed, nor disappointed. Romans 5:5 (NLT) 5 And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love. Hope in a God who has said, "I promise this very day that I will repay you two mercies for each of your woes!" Zechariah 9:12 NIV) 12 Return to your fortress, O prisoners of hope; even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you. God is our place of safety. (2 Samuel 22:3) It is the God who created this majestic world and all of the heavens who has promised that, when we place our hope in Him, He take our troubles and return us double in blessings! Are you a prisoner in a dark, dry pit? Or, have you put your trust in the God who has promised you victory? Are you a prisoner of hope this morning? If not, Jesus will give you a transfer right now if you call on Him. Colossians 1:13-14 (NLT) 13 For he has rescued us from the kingdom of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of his dear Son, 14 who purchased our freedom and forgave our sins.
IT STARTS WITH THE FATHER AND THE SON
3 What we have seen and [ourselves] heard, we are also telling you, so that you too may realize and enjoy fellowship as partners and partakers with us. And [this] fellowship that we have [which is a distinguishing mark of Christians] is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah).
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